GEN X vs GEN Z

Welcome to the latest episode of Red Lips Real Talk Podcast hosted by Jasmine, Jessica, Monica, Maritza, and Deibys. In this engaging and heartfelt discussion, the ladies from South Florida dive into the complex world of friendships, spanning different generations. They recount their recent photo shoot, which sparked a conversation on body positivity and self-confidence. Special guests Leticia (23) and Jalyssa (21) join in to share the Gen Z perspective on making and sustaining friendships in the digital age. Topics include the impact of social media, the challenge of confrontation, and the importance of community and self-care. With plenty of light-hearted moments and deep insights, this episode encapsulates the evolving nature of friendship and the common ground between Gen Z and Gen X. Tune in for an episode filled with laughs, learning, and a lot of love!

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Transcript

Hey chicas, welcome to Red Lips Real Talk Podcast. I'm Jasmine. I'm Jessica. I'm Monica. I'm Maritza. And I'm Deibys with a Y. Get ready. Somos Latinas from South Florida, bringing you real talk on life, love, and everything in between. Time to get real. Dale. Hello, ladies. Hello. I'm so happy to see you all. I'm so happy we're here at the red table.

Yes. I was looking forward to talking to you all in a meeting here at the table because I know what we're going to talk about right now. I know that the photo shoot from this weekend, I was just ecstatic. I was so excited. I loved seeing, I just felt like such great energy and good vibes. And I was like, really.

Just enjoying everybody, like, you know, just being in their moment, you know, owning their beauty, owning their curves. Yeah. And, you know, and I know, like, some people don't feel, you know, comfortable in the camera. Some people actually may assume that I might feel comfortable in front of the camera, but I have to, honestly, like, there's conversations that I have to have with myself all the time, you know, because I'm a fucking delusional bitch.

Because Let me just tell you what happened, not to interrupt you, but I was sitting there and I was like, I felt like I was a fucking superstar. You were, I was like, I'm like Joe, Joe Rogan level. No, but I love that. I love that. She was like, I don't give a shit. And then I was like, did you get, did you get my left?

Get the left. My left is the good side. I loved it too. We were playing music. That was fun. I'm glad you had the music on that definitely added to it. Monica, I don't mean to put you on the spot, but I was really proud of you because I know that you don't really like to take a lot of. pictures and we all had to have kind of like a little mini intervention with you and be like, no, you're going to regret it.

No, but I loved it because everybody was, it was fun though. I think everybody looked beautiful. We were owning it and I really felt too, like we were cheering each other on. It was out of our comfort zone. Let's be real. But I loved seeing us out of our comfort zone, yet embracing that discomfort and like cheering each other on to push each other.

Yeah, because that's what friends do. Yeah, yeah. So for me that like resonated, there was like a moment, honestly, that, um, that Maritza and I, I think you took the picture. Aw, and Maritza's not here today. No, I miss you. We want you back, hurry up. We miss you. And there was a moment where we took a picture by your stairwell.

Because we were at Jasmine's house, this beautiful, amazing, you know, she hosted our photo shoot, so thank you for that. Oh, you're welcome. But we were at, uh, on the stairwell, I think it was Jasmine took the picture, and I saw that picture and I was like, it just resonated with me. I was like, I have so many pictures with Maritza when we were young, and all of us.

Yeah. And it just like it took me back. It took me back to a place where I was like, wow, you know, we've our friendships have all stood the test of time. Like we've gone through so many seasons in life. So many chapters. Yeah. And look who we are right now. Yeah. And I'm like, wow, the fact that we can all be here and say that we made it through and we've been there for each other.

I think that's really significant. Yeah. And it allowed me to then like further reflect on the fact like, wow, you know, I prompted like, how does one get to the journey of friendships? Well, let's take it back a little bit because before we jump there, which I totally agree with you, I wanted to go back to Monica because Monica, I know I had already mentioned that you were a little bit shy and stuff.

And I remember texting you and saying, Hey, you know, remember Schitt's Creek, take a thousand pictures of yourself because when you're older, you're going to look. at your, at those pictures with more gentle and kinder eyes, and I don't know if that affected you, but you came in through the door, and me, Jessie, and Maritza were sitting in the staircase, and we had moments where we were watching you, and you were smiling, and you were confident, and I was like, I love that I saw that come out of you, like it really, it really did, and I can't wait to see your pictures, especially yours, because I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised.

Excuse me. How beautiful you looked. But you know, just as you were saying, it's so many seasons, so many years and we've evolved and we're not the same people. No, I'm not the same friend that you made. Right. When you met me, I'm a completely, I think I'm a completely different person.  I love witnessing all of that. I agree with Jasmine. I love witnessing all of us, especially at this age. You know, I'm Hey, I'm turning 50. Half a century. Well, you make 50 look good. Yes. Thank you. You do. Thank you. Bam. Thank you. So, yeah. And it's just, it's hard to, you know, cause you have those ruminations and the critical thoughts in us as women.

Hey, no matter what age you're at, like it's, it could be topping a girl. Cause we're very self critical. We are. And just cause I'm 50 doesn't mean that takes it away completely. It just comes with like a little once in a while, like I don't give a shit. kind of attitude once in a while now, but that doesn't mean I wake up like that every day, you know, you still have to like, so that photo shoot meant a lot to, to me to see all of yous.

And it was just like a moment in time. Yeah. I mean, I hope we have a really good picture so we could update our red lips. Oh, we are. Yeah. I want, I want to put like our, the five of us looking, you know, really cool, fabulous, fabulous. Like I can't wait. You know me, like I'm always thinking big things and I'm always like, all of us, like we're delusional.

Just Julia Fox. You gotta be a little delusional. Yeah. like, I know I'm delusional, but like when you said that, you were like, we're fucking superstars. I'm, I felt like a superstar. I was four and a half hours sick. No. Felt it, definitely felt good. Enjoyed it. Turned the, the like Spotify, like a random thing and it was like 24 cab.

24 karat. And I was like, that's, you said you, this was the year in gold. That's right. I was like, that's such fun. Go baby. That's because I just turned on whatever random playlist and it was like 24 karat. You know, I didn't even think about that. That's so true. It took you so bad. It was a great, great day.

Yes. So I loved our weekend together and that, you know, just also gave me some time to really, you know, reflect on and what we're going to talk about today's episode and really resonated with me. I'm excited. Yeah, me too, because it really resonated with me, like, you know, reflecting back on the whole journey of creating friendships.

I mean, We're the Gen Xers that came from a time where like there was no technology. We spent time with each other, physical time with each other. But now fast forward, now we have technology. And even now today, even at the age we're at, you know, we've had to make friends in a different way. And so with today, I'm so excited to present to the table, our guests, two beautiful young ladies.

From the Gen Z generation. Gen Z up in the house. They got that collagen. Which can't I just say? Well, first let me introduce, well, introduce yourself and then I'll say what I'm going to say. What's your name, beautiful girl? Leticia. Leticia, I couldn't even give her a second. This is why I wake up in the morning every day.

It's to hear that. How old are you, Leticia? I am 23, just turned 23 in October. Oh, congratulations. So Leticia is my beautiful niece. I'm so happy to have you here. I'm excited. And we also have here across the table, beautiful Jalyssa. Hi, I'm Jalyssa. Jalyssa's 21. And she is our beautiful friend Monica's daughter.

My little mini me. Yes, she's a mini you. Don't forget she's my niece too. Yes, that's right. My other baby. Well, don't let your family hold you back from saying what you want to say. Well, let's make them feel welcome. So thank you so much for coming. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're excited to have you girls here.

I'm sorry, ladies. Ladies. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I'm going to start with you, Leticia, if you don't mind. So just tell me a little bit about yourself. Um, yes, I'm again, Jessica's niece. Um, 23. I was born, raised in Miami, moved out here in West Palm. I graduated high school and, um, Went to college, um, class of 2020, so unfortunately that wasn't, uh, the best year for, for all my classmates.

Um, so everything was online, I transitioned, graduating high school, and I did, uh, literally like a ceremony here at the house with everyone at the family, so definitely not what I had planned for. Yeah. But, um, it was an interesting, uh, time. And then I went to aesthetician school, I did skin, and then Oh, I didn't know that.

That's why your skin looks beautiful. Yes, that's why I was like, okay, okay. I know she's acknowledging here what, the effort, the, everything I put in here. Well, it's showing. Thank you. I just got a facial, too, so. Nice. I mean, I can't believe you I wasn't taking care of my skin. I was putting baby oil and hanging out.

That's what I was saying, yes. That's what we were talking about earlier. Now, skin has always kind of been my thing. thing. Um, I mean, Jessica can tell you. She's my consultant. She's the person I'm like what products tell me hook it up. So yes, I got her into her microneedling. That's right. Got her on a skin regimen.

That's right. Yeah. You know, it's funny you said that you graduated in 2020. My daughter also went through the same thing. She's 2022 2020 and she didn't have a graduation. She didn't have a prom. Um, you know, she had to, it was a little, yeah, heartbreaking. It was a little heartbreaking. And I feel there's a soft spot for specifically the 2020 graduators.

We appreciate that. No, no, absolutely. So, um, I know you said you're into skincare, but let's continue from there. What are some other things you'd like to do? Like, what are some of your favorite social media platforms, for example? Um, I used to be, you know, I grew up on Instagram. I think, um, yeah, my generation was the generation where Instagram started becoming a thing.

Um, TikTok, Twitter. I kind of let go of TikTok because it became a bit of a toxic kind of a app. for me. I think everyone's algorithm is a little different. So I think at the time too, I was also in New York. And so what I was seeing there and what was going on on my TikTok, I just, it wasn't healthy for me to like, you know, take in on a daily basis.

That's interesting you say that because you're seeing things from where you're at in your state, which was New York at that time. Yes. And I didn't realize that really does go based off where you're living. Yeah. It was, my algorithm was different living like in West home I was seeing a few different things and then in New York I was seeing like that kind of like world.

It's like different worlds. It's kind of weird, social media. But I think I'm more so on Instagram and Twitter. I kind of Twitter, really? I love Twitter. I love Twitter. I think my, my generation is also big on Twitter too. But, um, I only go there I'm very surprised. I was not expecting that. I'm learning. I'm learning.

I love Twitter. Yes. I go there really for Um, for like to learn, uh, skin. I go there for like skin facts, health facts. I'm always learning things like news. I don't like watching TV like news. Okay. Um. I don't, I think most people don't. Right. No. I don't like the way it's kind of gives off like a. Well, the way we're getting our news.

Yes. Yes, the delivery. How we're delivering it. I, I like kind of viewing the news on like Twitter. It's a better space there, I think. Um, so, um, yeah, I usually use Twitter just to like learn things. I've kind of learned with social media because it can be a delicate thing with social media. And I think our generation, um, we're very sensitive what's being like shared and how we're perceiving it and stuff.

So I really changed my mindset as far as How social media works for me. I don't take it too personal anymore. It's just everyone's posting and going on about their day. And that's it. But I used to be really big on like comparing, you know, a lot of, um, my, my people my age are content creators and they're buying these penthouses in like LA.

And, you know, they're living a whole completely different life than an average like 23 year old. I'm, you know, figuring myself out and stuff. So it's hard to not want to compare, you know. Yeah, that's fake. Most of those people, because I did a little due diligence. And a lot of those people were just showing up to like people's houses and taking like videos in front of these amazing homes or videos in front of these amazing cars.

Well, I personally, I grew up with, you know, some girls that ended up actually being content creators and like they're, they're doing their thing on TikTok or whatever. And they've made, uh, you know, like a well off living for themselves and stuff. So seeing that and like, kind of like not in a sense wanting to compare, but it's hard not to when it's.

It's all over social media, and it's an aesthetic, and it's like a, you know, what you want at the same time, but you don't want to, like, um, I don't know, like, I don't want to compare myself, but damn, how nice it would be to live a life like that and show my life in that way. So I, um, so piggybacking on what you said, Jalyssa, so what platforms do you use?

Um. And what do you think about what, uh, But these are just shared. I'm very big on TikTok. Like when it was, when I was going to get taken away, I was I had a full fledged break. I'm here to say I had to check on Jasmine. But you know what I Listen, I got accused of prying and I was like, I did not cry. My eyes were swollen.

Relax, you cried before. You know what I learned? TikTok is that toxic ex. You know, they, they, they keep leaving and then they come back. I can't, I can't with you right now. We need to stop. So Jalyssa, let's let our hearers learn a little bit about you. So your name is Jalyssa and you're 21. And tell us a little bit about yourself.

I graduated high school in 2021. So I didn't get to get the effect of COVID just a little bit. Nothing crazy. Um, and right out of high school, I already knew exactly like what field I wanted to go into and go to college for. So I'm currently a nursing student. Congratulations. It's amazing. Um, yeah, so went straight into college and just worked in the school and That's pretty much it.

So you're in the grind right now. Yeah. Working, making money, going to nursing school. Yeah, I'm locked in right now. You're locked in. Exactly. It's a good way to put it. You're doing your thing. Okay, so you, so you do use uh, TikTok. Do you use it for fun or do you use it more for like, or do you create content?

Um, I use it more for fun. And my content, quote unquote, is for fun. Like it's for me and my friends to just like. look back and like, Oh my God, that's so funny. Like that video. Um, but no, actually I mainly use it to learn new line dances because I do line dancing. Oh, wow. By the way, Pitbull, you are a very big inspiration.

Wait a minute. There are 600 line dances. to his song. Girl, we need to learn. We need to do that. We need to do that. We need to do a video. We need to do a video. Oh my God. I wish everybody could see Jackson's face right now. I thought it was just like country music. No. Line dance. There's. It's a thing.

There's people line dancing? Yes. Now, I have to say, is this like just recent? Because I know Beyonce came out with her album. Like, did that just take it to that level or no? No. Even before that? No. Okay. I was just curious. Line dancing, a lot of people, when they hear that, they think like country music and like square dancing.

But getting into it, it was like so different. How did you get into it? I'm so curious. Well, I've Fascinated by this right now. It used to be just like a place that I would go and hang out with my friends and like just socialize. But then, like, sitting there and watching the people dance, I'm like, oh wow, that's actually, like, really cool.

You know, like, super, super cool. I need to, like, grind and, like, learn these dances so I can be, like, one of them. And so, TikTok became, like, a very big help on that. And I guess, just, like, scrolling and looking, and, like, all of a sudden, my whole entire algorithm, like, had to deal with TikTok. But let me ask a question.

Is this, like, a whole, like, so, is there specific dances for each song? And everybody does it the same in different states? Yeah, well, it can vary, like the West Coast sometimes has different dances. Well, it's the West Coast. They're always different. They have their different version of, like, the same song that we may use here, but typically all around, like, um, Broward and, like, West Palm and, like, mainly Florida, they have, like, the same dances to the same songs.

Hmm. That's so interesting. And now I got it. We need to have a red lips. We need to do a line dance video, right? We're going to record it. We're going to upload. It's happening. We're having a post meeting about that and it's going to be to I love that. I love it. You're going to be our instructor and I have yet to learn one because it's It's just a lot of, uh, hand eye coordination that I don't have right now at this stage.

So is it safe to say that that's something that you do for fun? Yes. Okay. It's definitely like, uh, therapy. Really? Like therapy? That's nice to hear. Okay. Like, if I'm like feeling down, go line dancing. Go line dance. Like, I want to celebrate something, go line dancing. And like, if I'm really stressed out. Man, I'm learning a lot.

I know. I love this. Do you line dance by any chance, Leticia? No, but I Did you jump on that? I actually have a few, um, like girlfriends I grew up with down south, like in Miami. Um, and I think it's like a, every Thursday is like girls night and at PBR. Yeah. Oh my God. That's what it is. And they all go there.

And it's so cute. What does PBR teach me? I think, yeah, you would know more about it. PBR is just a line dancing place in Miami. So there's actually two places in Miami. When I heard about it in Miami, I'm like, really? It's got this happens in Miami, right? That was my first. There's nobody like doing the dog in Miami.

DMX. It was in Miami. I was a little. skeptical. I'm like, Oh, you know, it's probably gonna be like a bunch of Latin music, like not like true line dancing. But I went there for the first time and it was like actually a pretty cool place. Like, wow, these lights and like, it's a very big entertaining, like kind of thing.

Yeah, they look like they all have like fun. Oh, fun. Well, you ladies. are going to have to go together now. That's right. You don't put me on to this. Okay. This is great. So one of the main reasons we have you beautiful ladies here is because we want to learn about your generation. But we also, we're always talking on our podcast about how we became friends and that we've been friends, some of us since middle school, some of us since high school.

And I know other young ladies such as yourselves who Admire that about our little clique and they'll be like it's so different to have friendships that stand the test of time like you ladies So that's why we wanted to do this show So with that said like when you go to line dancing Is it easy for you to just like meet people there and get friendly and like exchange numbers and or or who you showed up?

With that's who you hang out with the whole night and that's it. Yes and no Okay, at first it was a little intimidating because you look at these people and you're like they know what they're doing You know if I try and go and dance next to So I'm going to look like a fool of myself. I don't want to step on their toes and whatnot, but after going there week after week after week and making it like a thing, you, I went from going with only two, the same two people to now having a group of 14.

Oh wow. And that was from meeting at the line dancing place. Oh, that's wonderful. I'm really happy to hear that. So going from the same two people to now walking in with 14 people and you're that big group of people in the line that is causing the line to move. to go slow. It's like looking back on it. I always look back and I'm like, wow, it's crazy how I would just like go here with the least amount of people.

And now I'm walking in with like 10 other people and like we're all having fun, having a good time. Like we all like end up, I went from sitting at a bar stool to having to sit at a table. Oh, that's wonderful. So it's, it's a very big transition and it's like in a good way and a positive way to meet friends.

Yeah. So in your eyes, And I'd like to hear from you too. What defines a great friendship for you in your eyes? Um, in my eyes, I feel like a great friendship is the person that you can count on no matter what. Even if you haven't talked in like a year, the person that you know that you can call and be like, Oh my God, guess what just happened?

Whether it's good, whether it's bad, they'll be there shoulder, like their shoulder will be there for you to cry. Cry on, we'll be there to like support you or like celebrate you no matter what. I feel like friendships don't need the requirement of having to talk every day and text every day and hang out every day and like see each other all the time because that can be a lot.

Life gets busy. Even, even at our age being 21 and 23, like we're out and about. School, work, meeting with this friend because you made friends a month ago, yeah. So, having those friendships where you don't have to attend to them 24 7. What about you Leticia? I agree, I agree too. I've, coming from growing up in Miami and in the middle of high school.

Well, middle school having to transition to a whole nother city. I still to this day, I'm pretty thankful to have friends I can call up still from over there and I haven't talked to him months. Be like, Hey, what's up? Like let's go catch up, let's go hang out or whatever. So I agree with that no matter what stage in life you're at.

Everyone has their. life going on. You can always depend on someone to say, I just need a van or let's catch up or whatever it is. So I, yeah, I definitely agree with that. Do you ladies feel like it's been hard to make like quality friendships, like with, um, the way you guys meet people and like, just like social media and school or keeping long relationships?

Yeah, I think, um, especially with like social media and stuff, I feel like, um, yeah, definitely a little difficult. I know me, uh, I have, I get a little, I'm, I'm shy naturally. So it did, it does take me a couple times. And I feel like when I also moved to New York, it also kind of I'm very used to people approaching me rather than me being the one to approach them and starting the conversation.

So, um, definitely, yeah, I think just depending on the environment and I think sometimes we can be in our heads to making friendships and stuff and we're thinking too deep into it and sometimes it's just. simple as like, Hey, you look pretty or something. I feel like with girls, you know, it can be as simple as that.

And, um, yeah, but I think it is a little difficult today as far as kind of navigating those, uh, genuine friendships and stuff. So Leticia, I noticed you said that you moved to New York for a little bit from Florida. What do you think were some of the pros and cons of doing that? Um, I, I learned a lot about myself.

I had to really embrace being in my own solitude, and that was something I felt like I, if it wasn't for me moving to New York, I don't think I would have, there would have been any other way of me, um, learning that experience and stuff. So, um, I think the pros were really just, yeah, learning myself, learning my strengths, really, and understanding that, uh, I had to live with things I thought I couldn't live without, you know, having my immediate family with me, uh, that was kind of hard, you know, and I was living with my boyfriend at the time.

So, you know, it was, it was also hard making friends outside of that relationship and um, yeah, I, and you know, cons were feeling really lonely. having to navigate those friendships and being in a whole completely different city. I had no idea. Learning how to commute alone was, was not the easiest, you know?

Well, thank you for sharing that because it's interesting that you said you were, you moved in with your boyfriend and your boyfriend kind of becomes maybe like your world and it limits you in being able to meet new people. Yes. Right. And I know that, I know that for a fact because my, one of my daughters.

had a couple girlfriends that she was very close to. And as soon as they got boyfriends, she was like, Mom, like, I try, but, you know, she's like always with her boyfriend. And then eventually that relationship dismantled, you know? And I think that when you're very, very young in serious relationships at a young age, it's it can it could be pros and cons, just like you said.

So, you know, I thank you for for sharing that. Adding to something that you had mentioned, Leticia, you mentioned something about loneliness. And that you felt there was times where you felt lonely. And I, I was surprised to, to know that, uh, there's statistics supporting the fact that the Gen Z, uh, generation, or it's feeling lonely.

You're, you're known as the lonely generation. Is that right? I heard about that. I didn't read that article, but Jalyssa, do you feel that way? Um, definitely when COVID started, when COVID started, it definitely took over the feeling lonely because you were limited from seeing who you can and who you can't.

And like some parents weren't okay with their, like their kids hanging out with the big group of people that you had like friends with. And so then I know I experienced being in a group of 12 people and then it limiting to only. Yeah, because it not only did the parents not gonna say it's their fault But like drive us away because we couldn't all hang out with one another But then it also went down to like the friends itself and like, oh, well, they're not reaching out to me They're not hanging out with me.

So like we're not really friends anymore. And once again, it's like in high school not as mature as we are now. Yeah, it ended up having 12 friends to only three friends. So you were never able to rekindle those friendships and get back during when COVID kind of fell off. That's see, to me, that's that's wild because that is.

I, I, I can't put that hurts my, that hurts me because I'd be like, bitch, what you mean? Yes. What you ain't talking to me? No more with us. But I, I'm guessing and you guys, uh, you know, share your input, but I'm guessing obviously because there was like that lack of actual content, physical, yeah, physicalness with each other face to face.

Yeah. And how at some point I'm sure you were like, wow, that's, that's valuable to be able to do that. And it's been taken away. So speaking of the loneliness, I wanted to add this. Uh, because, I mean, I was so surprised to hear that the Gen Z generation is known as the Lonely Generation. And nationally, 79 percent of Gen Z say they experience loneliness.

Globally, 1 in 4 individuals aged 15 to 18 report feeling fairly or very lonely. Young adults are almost twice as likely to report experienced loneliness compared to older adults, and 63 percent of young adults experienced loneliness also report significant anxiety or depression symptoms. And it made me sad to hear those statistics.

Well, I'm going to ask you both ladies. I don't know. I mean, you're only two out of a huge millions of Gen Z, but do you think, in your opinion, that social media played a part in that? I, I do. Yeah, I definitely do because Social media turned into like this, um, this thing where it's like, your life is supposed to be about this.

It's supposed to look like this, you know, like these are what you and your friends are supposed to be doing. And like, this is how friendships are supposed to be like, and everyone's different. Like just because you and like. Your friends go out and do that doesn't mean that me and my friends have to but then some friends would see that and they're like, Oh, like, why?

Why are we not doing this? Like, this is getting boring. Like, you're not like this person. You're not like the person that I'm seeing on my screen. And it's just Wow, I actually am getting a little emotional because one of my daughters who's 23. She would be like, Mom, I don't like to go to clubs. I don't like to go to parties.

You know, I'm, I'm not that girl, but I like art. I like to read books. Um, I don't really like to wear a lot of makeup, you know, I dress a certain way. And she goes, and sometimes it's like, I can't seem to find like my people or the group. And I was like, but even if you don't, cause I remember having friends.

Who were super girly and I was like into my hip hop and we still connected. So I was struggling with that. It was like the rave girls, the rave girls, the rave girls. There was the girls who listen to Nirvana. Not the punks, but the punk rockers, the punks, but the punk rockers. But we still like kind of mix.

Yeah. And I just. I think there's like a, um, a lack of community in this, like, with our generation, you know, kind of like keeping reminding everyone like, you know, we're all together here. We don't have to compare, compete with each other. I think that's what social media does to people. I think that that makes people like clicky.

Not clicky, just like, like Jalyssa was saying, like, you see them doing this and doing that, and then you're like, well, why aren't me and my friends doing this, or my friends telling me why aren't we doing this? But that's just someone putting that out there. This girl could have went bowling with her friend and put pictures up.

It looks like a great time. And for all you know, they could have fought the whole time. And I guess you don't even know if they really had a good night. It's just that they're posting this picture up of them smiling and looking great. And now everybody has FOMO. Everybody has a fear of missing out. So I feel like there is this disconnect of that in person relationship building, even though they're in school and they see each other and they do go out.

I feel like the bonding and like the trying to be friends is more online. Liking my photo, liking this, am I living up to everybody's status? Am I da da da da da? Because in school, everybody represented themselves in school, not online. So you got what you got and that's what it was. Now it's like everybody's putting this persona on and I think that that disconnects people because it's like, well, I want that.

I want to do this. I want to do that. And you're like hyping this thing up that is not reachable because it's majority of it is not that it's fake, but it's, yes, it's, you're not getting materialistic, exactly. You're not getting the substance of it. Right. And I think that COVID was a very hard time for everyone, but I don't think COVID is what's affecting the making the friend, the long friendships.

It's because if I got COVID when I was. Their age, I think we would have been going even more crazy because we would have been able to only talk to like one friend on the phone. We wouldn't be able to like talk to each other on social media or FaceTime or do any of that. You could actually still connect with people.

If we got COVID and we were locked down in our age, we would have been like, Oh my God, I like, I can only call one friend. Maybe you can do the two way calling. Remember that you can call it another line. That's it. Like I wouldn't be able to call like one friend every couple hours and be like, well, why aren't you talking to me?

Cause I'm talking to so and so. You know what I'm saying? Like, there was a way to actually still connect. Yeah. But the loneliness, I think that, that affected everybody. You know what I mean? But I think Kids more because they have their friends as their lives. Adults are like working and keeping up with the house.

Kids have nothing else to do but like be with their friends. And it's like, okay, I don't have that. So the loneliness I think was a little different, but let me not keep going. Sorry. No, no, don't know. But I'm, I'm sorry I interrupted you. No, I just got a thought in my mind. I, I may be going a little out here, but I think some of the problems, especially with young girls and social media was the unrealistic beauty standard.

Right. You know, and then you have all these like, you know, girls that are supposed to look six, like, I don't know what I looked like when I was 15. Like, I, I know what I looked like. I had acne. Me crook teeth, like, you know, and all this stuff. You have these 15 year olds with like, they're just so gorgeous.

And then you look at that at a young age, and it's constant on your phone. You know, the perfect lips, the be the pretty eyes, the perfect hair, the perfect outfit. Yeah. But not every single 15-year-old looks like that. That's just face. But if that's what you see exactly. Come picture, you know what I mean?

You're gonna convince yourself, okay, this is what everyone looks like, right? I mean, not for nothing, but it happens to me. Like even when I'm gonna post a picture, I mean, I'm like. I don't know. Yeah. Oh my God, yes. Oh no. Totally. Never mind. I'm not posting anything. That's so much work. It's true. It happens.

It's like we could sit here and lie to them and say we don't do it. And sometimes I, I see a picture and I'm like, I like the way I look in it, but then I'm like, oh, but you know what? Esto, esto, and I don't put it. Right. And then there's days I wake up and I'm like, you know what? I don't care. I love how I look.

You know, and and it was natural. I didn't put I didn't do anything. I'm sweating, but we're dealing with that as an adult, right? As older adults for sure. You know, they're young adults and they're dealing with this, you know, so it's like that's where I feel like it's like you can't build these real, real build.

Well, I mean, not that nobody has, I mean, people have real bonds. It's not like I'm saying they don't have real bonds or this generation doesn't have true friends. That's not what I'm saying at all. I think it's just difficult to find that and keep that because the social media is such a good tool, but it can also like hinder a lot of things, you know?

No. And as we said, I mean, we came to the conclusion, like the Barnett group stat indicates in person relationships are valued more, but the digital time dominates. Yeah. So it's like as much as we. know that it's much more valuable to have the physical connection. You know, it's, we're competing against this, the machine, the machine that we are distracted by.

Really it's a distraction. And then instead of like, if you want to call it my friend, it's like, right. Yeah. Like does that like, yeah, I think if it's not like, again, what we were just saying earlier, if someone's not checking in on us, calling us, texting us, you're more than likely not going to hear from them or the other person's really not going to reach out.

It's, it feels yeah. Like a one way kind of street, unfortunately. And then those. Friendships end up falling apart and we never rekindle and then it just is what it is and then you end up just looking at their life on social media, never saying anything to them. Just liking your pictures and it's what we're supposed to be friends, right?

There's a lot of ways to communicate. Back then all we did if we wanted to talk to a friend, we would call them or beep them. Yeah. I think the physicality of it. Text me. FaceTime me. Going out of your way. Like my photos. DM me. Like, you know. So I have a question. I'm just curious about this. So when someone calls you instead of texting you.

How does that make you feel when you're like, do you get paranoid? No, I appreciate it so much more. Yeah, because I'm a voice message kind of person. Yeah. I'm the kind of person that like, I'd much rather have a full conversation. Even it's like, Hey, how are you doing? What? How was your week? Whatever. Call me.

So like I have that, like, I can hear your voice. I can hear the tone in your voice. My fingers get tired. There's times though, where yes, if someone does randomly call me, I'm like, do you have anxiety when they call you? Yes. I'm like, is this a number? It's. This is either an emergency, or someone's dying, um, they need me, or, you know, and then you answer, hello?

And they're just like, hey, just wanted to say, I'm like, oh, okay, all right, good. I'm watching your phone ringing, and you don't know who's calling, and you just gotta answer it. Sometimes, if I especially don't have your number saved, I'm like, mm, does it, I'll listen to my gut, I'm like, huh, should I answer it, or no?

Yeah. I'm gonna send this article that I read, that it's like the Gen Z generations are the ones I went through. They receive an actual phone call from someone that they know. Usually they will think exactly what Leticia said. What? Is it an emergency? Because that's the only reason somebody would call me.

Because other than that, we'd have a conversation through audio and text. My daughters have literally said, Mom, why are you calling your friends? Text her and I'll be like, I'm just going to call her and they're like, whatever you're going to say to her, you can text her. Or how the texts go, and how do the texts go?

Yeah, we have a question about the text messaging. And then she goes, don't be a weirdo. And I'm like, is that, you're not supposed to call and she goes, mom, just text. And I'm like, hello, is it me? And I write that stuff down. I use periods, commas, and she's like, Mom, what is this? And I was like, it is appropriate grammar.

I use periods and commas, and don't fucking start with me, bitch, cause I know cursive. If my mom puts a period at the end of the message, I'm like, are you upset? Do we need to talk? Do you want to call me on the phone or something? I even capitalize a letter if it needs it. This is so funny. You know, I think I got it.

I think I get like anxiety and like a drop in my heart when I get a text from my mom. Like, Hey, no explanation today. My mom sent me a text and she was like, Hey, I have a question. Oh God. The way my heart. I'm like, yes. And then I had nothing to do with, I feel like you're my daughter right now.

And I was like, she goes, why can't you just say, can you pick up some eggs on the way home? Like, why did you say, Hey, I need to talk to you. My mom does the same thing. Just say, pick up eggs. Mom. I thought something happened. And I was like, something did happen. There were no eggs. I remember we were talking about how they text like, um, hi, bring it up, send.

Can you talk? Send. I need you to do this for me. Send. Oh, the multiple messages. Yes. I can't just put everything in one word. It's too many thoughts. It's like, okay, say this. Say this. Say this. I prepared the message. Like I even make paragraphs like, okay, I'm going to talk about this and space that those words out, you know, instead of hitting everything in one.

What are you talking about? You just triple texted me today.

Oh, my God. I'm going to use that. I'm going to use that. You're ready for today. Cause I was working. I don't know. I need, I need to see what I love this. The triple texting. Babies. You're known as the triple text. You check some other messages. I don't always, but that's okay. I didn't say, Hey, Oh, they're all mini paragraphs.

Me. I sent you three full pair. Like they're not. Okay. Well, I don't always do that. Okay. I didn't say that. My whole page is a double. Booker. And this is the triple texting. Triple texting. Triple texting. Double booker. Well, I'm going to tell you, Jalyssa used to always grammatically correct me when I would text her.

All the time. I always do that to people. I do that to Adriana. But you don't even text in full sentences. In full, completely fine. Good morning. You don't need to say G M. You don't need to say good morning. Yes. Good morning.

Oh my God, I love it. So it's impossible to just send a full paragraph. No, I always. I know it's true because I was on the phone with someone and it was like my, my daughter was texting me from school and I kid you not, it was ding, ding, ding. Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! And I was like, that's my daughter. And it was, mom, oh my god.

I have to tell you something. Can you believe? And it was like, and I was like, are you insane? But yes, thank you for confirming that your generation, it's very strange with text messaging. But going back to like, talking on the phone, like I do feel like our generation, does lack a little bit of that.

They're always big texters and like, everything, arguments, trying to figure out plans, everything. It's taking things out of context with messages. Yeah. And it's like the argument portion over text. You can't tell their tone. You can't tell what they really mean or how they really mean it. And I feel like that's why a lot of friendships end because of the miscommunication and like, you know, the, the line, it's like so far off.

Yeah. Yeah. From like the way. Yeah. Taking it out of context. Yeah. Yeah. Like I could be like in the message like, are you okay? And you could read it like, are you okay? Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It's so true. You're delusional. I am delusional. Listen, I know you're right because I'm going to tell you something. I wrote a text message that I was going to send to someone and I was like, Hmm, who can I call to confirm?

It was your mom. So I call Mo and I'm like, Mo, um, I'm going to send you a text. Read it. Tell me what you think. She was like, bitch, you sound mad. And I was like, no, I don't. So she goes, read it out loud. And she was like, Jasmine, the way you're reading it does not sound at all the way I'm Yeah. And that's when I learned, okay, you have to be very careful with text messaging.

Yeah. You use a little emoji at the end. Uh huh. Yep. I even use it at work. Are you a little passive? A little. That's what I, that's what I like to do too, is, is use a little emojis. Elo. Me too. Yeah. You do use emojis. You do. Just kidding. I do. I do because I'm like, I don't want this to go a whole other way.

Right. Well, first they're cute, so I like to use them because they're cute, but then I add them to make sure they know this is a fun text, like, I even use it on her. I'm coming from a happy place. Yes. And a heart, always add the heart, now, all of, what color heart though? Red. The color hearts though mean something.

I like the bright red one. Wait, hold on, hold on. The scale is back. What do you mean? The heart, the colors of the heart have a meaning. Yes. Okay. Nobody speak. Jessica, quiet. Everyone quiet. Just when I thought I knew everything. Teach us your ways. These are secrets. The red heart is typically what you would use like when you're like either super close to someone as a friend, like I love you, like with a significant other, like family, family.

Okay. I've been using the red heart on everything, the bright red. I don't like that, that. And then you had one, the white heart. Yes. It's like, um, the talking stage. Yeah. Like a friendlier kind of like you're, you're just getting to know the person, like a white heart. Means what? I don't even use. I didn't even know there was a white heart.

I didn't know that I used it. It's like a soft, like, I love you, you know, like, I care about you, but I like that. Like, don't like a little. Don't take it there. Right? Yeah. Don't take it there. But I love you. Like a friend zone kind of. Yes. No, that's not how I took it. It's like, I like you, but, oh, you know, that's better.

Yeah. Like we can make friends. The Gen Xers can make their own. It's like a friend zone. So what are the colors? Now there's blue. What does the blue one mean? Yeah. Blue, I think it's just like, yeah, the other colors are more like, you know, friendlier, like whatever, you know? Yeah. Like just like, I use the heart honestly to match the emojis that I'm sending.

So if you next time pay attention, when I text you, like if I'm throwing like, you know, Christmas one, I'm going to throw red and green and white. You're so cute, Debbie. Seriously. It's the decorator in me. I was just going to say that. I love, I was thinking the same thing. 

So if I understand correctly, there's basically two colors that we really have to worry about, and that's red and white. Yeah. Yeah. And the other colors are just. Taste the rainbow. You know, like more passive, you know, everyone can have this heart. So let me ask you a question. So like, if you, you know, someone's texting you and they've been texting you a white heart for a while and all of a sudden they send you a red heart.

Is that like, that's like, that's, yeah, that's like, Oh, we're moving to that, that next level. So I mean, that really means something. All right. Yeah. That's like, okay, we're moving to the next stage here. All right. If I'm getting a white to a red, I'm so excited. I love that I have a Gen Z er in my home. I really learned a lot today.

Seriously. Makes me want to ask my oldest in a secret way. I think we have like different generations in our house. Yes. No, we do. We have three generations. We have like the, the, we have the Gen X. We have the Gen Z. Oh no, we have the millennial. Millennial. And we have the Gen Z. I was thinking about that too.

then like the kids, what are they? Alpha? You know what? Alphabeta? Yeah. Is that the new one? I think. Oh. Alpha. Alphabeta. I can't keep track. I can't keep track. Delta, Delta, Phi, Tri. Well, I did a little research on your gen, your children's, because your babies are three. Yeah. So I'm not sure what they're called, but I think she's correct, Alphabeta.

They said that that generation will be the generation that lives way past 100 years old because of all the medical technology and advancements on health. So they're going to be living possibly up to 120 to 125 years old, and they'll be the first generation who never learned how to drive a car. What?

What? Get out of here. George Jetson? Are we going to have our flying cars now? I did a little research on that, that they won't know how to drive a car. I believe it, because everything is electric now, they're pushing to electric, self driving cars. And then you're going to be like, I used to drive a car back in my day.

We're going to be the new millennials. I had a driver's license. Listen, I don't care how old you are, there will always be a point when someone will say, back in my day, as you get older, you will say it. Fine . Oh my God. Watch. It's gonna happen. Wow. Happen. But no, that's a, that's a beautiful thing. Oh, you girls are so freaking cute.

So if you don't mind me asking, and, and no one here is gonna get offended, I think we just really wanna learn 'cause we're like having fun. But what's something about millennials and Gen X that you guys think is like, just so weird about us? Good question. . I wanna know, like, let it out the bag. Yeah. We won't be offended.

We won't, we won't. I think , you know, I, I, I say this. because again, um, one of my closest friends, you know, Katrina, she's very close to me and she's, you know, millennial. Is she going to be okay with using her name? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Promoting, uh, Heavenly Foot Massage and Spa. Oh, she's real okay.

Oh, yeah. Um, so sometimes with her, you know, it's a bit humorous because I, I know with like the millennials and stuff, you guys are still kind of maneuvering social media and how you guys like, you know, take your little. Pictures and stuff, you know, the way they pose the millennial, like poses, like this selfie stick, like, yeah, exactly.

Literally that little, like little things like that. You know, you guys are like maneuvering yourselves and are kind of like, it's humorous. It's humorous to, to like see those little things and then. I make jokes to her about it. I'm like, Oh, you're so like millennial or like little text messages, how you guys, you know, like talk over messages and stuff and your little emojis.

It's, it's little funny things like that. I think it's more humorous than like, you know, any, any humorous. This is why we always ask. It's the younger generation to take our pictures. Yeah, it's true. Whenever we're out, I'm like, can you take pictures today that I see, like, girls or age take, I'm like, yo, what cameras are, is this the same iPhone that we're all buying or something?

Yeah, they're taking. I'm so used to like the wrist camera, digital, that my mom would like take pictures of me on. Like, in New York City, next door. Next to a cop car, just smiling in my bundled up sweater. But Julissa, what's something you think that we can learn? Well, what is it that you think about our generation and also millennials that's different?

That you're like, Oh, wow, I don't understand how you guys can't get on technology fast enough. That's exactly what I'm saying. You guys are still like, maneuvering, like how to sometimes even like work the iPhones, you know, it's It's very true. It's true. All right. It's true. To my defense, we played Atari and the game was called Pong, right?

Was it Pong? And it was literally a ball that just went back and forth and we were like, Bing! That's how we grew up. Hey, listen, we had the first computers. We had the first computers. We had the first iMacs. Okay, so that's my thing. You think you would go, you had the first computers. I'm very proud of that.

And you guys, you guys are progressing with the computers. So why did, why does it take you longer? Okay, I'm going to answer that. I can't speak for everybody. I can only speak for. I think it's just, it moves way too fast. It's moving so fast that I can't keep up with it because I'm also, you know, I'm an older lady.

So I just feel like it's just so fast. And then by the time I learned how to use it, they're already like There's a new device going? Another thing, it's a new thing. And I'm like, but I just learned how to do this. Like, oh no. And I'm like, what is happening? It's like another iPhone? I think I'm pretty good.

I don't know. I don't think I'm that bad. But you know what? We got a podcast. I need to put my phone on. So we can't be that bad. I had to, I think I had to teach, um, I don't know, like Abuelita the other day how to put her phone on down. Aw, but those were the boomers. That just happened right here. Those are the boomers.

But we're not Abuelita. Right. That's the baby boomers. I know. We have a lot of grace for the baby boomers. Because we're the ones that we had to teach Jess? Abuelita. Right. Hold up. Listen. I But like, you know, like little things like that, you know, they have, I think Apple has like classes now where you can actually go and they'll teach you how to use your iPhone and your Macbook, but I just feel like you guys are still like, maneuvering.

You guys grew up with technology in your crib, okay? The phone was in your crib, okay? Yeah. So. No, but it's good. I'm glad that they're telling us this. No, I am. I'm just thinking to the fact that we have a life where, yeah, we had Etch A Sketch because I don't ask a lot of questions. Well, I'm going to tell you, the picture thing, I, my daughters told me that years ago and they were like, mom, please don't take pictures like that.

That is so embarrassing. Take pictures like what? Okay. I don't do that no more, but I'm guilty. Yeah. What's the proper way? Because like, because you know, like the Facebook mom, it's a selfie, it's like the selfie pose. So then how do you do it? We're not supposed to do that. No selfie at all? No. I don't know.

It's like you don't do selfies. Okay. No. Well, I think Do selfies. Yeah, we do selfies. I don't think, I don't, we can't do selfies. Yeah. Anymore. It's like the, I don't think I do that. Julissa do I With the Doty? Have you seen me do that? I've done that. That I've done. But it's just, it's lighting, it's, you know, call that, you know, we call that light is in my face, the only because everything is okay.

You know what? Everything's fucking falling down, . When we do this, we look better. What do you say? It's called Jalyssa. You said that's called, we call it the Facebook mom pose. Yes. That's exactly what it is. We need to step outside. Well, at least they didn't say my face. It's giving, it's giving space. Let me take out these bangled e mails right now.

Yo, yo, I'm ready to, I'm ready. Let me take my hoop earrings. Get the Vaseline. I was gonna, when she said hoop earrings, I was gonna go, where's the Vaseline? I'm even getting hot. Bro, la menopausia kicked in. The menopause. Oh, that is so funny. What did they say? Hold me back. We listen and we don't judge. We listen and we don't judge.

We listen and we don't judge. She tried that on me the other day. I was like, wait, what? Hold on a second. I am definitely judging over here. No, that's new. We listen and we don't judge and I'm like No, but we asked them, we asked them to be honest with us. No, I'm sorry, but my face is going to judge you all day.

I can't control my facial expression. No, you can't. When I said that, when I said that to my mom, we were sitting, we were sitting at the bar and I was like, all right, mom, I I got to talk to you about something, but we listen and we don't judge. She's like, get out of here. I'll listen, but I'm judging. And I'm like, no, we listen and we can't promise that.

I honestly just take the picture, whatever angle works. She's throwing the picture. Yeah, I don't always put my arm up, but if we're taking like a group picture, then yeah. Like, what about if it's a group picture, you're trying to squeeze everybody in. The focus of even like the quality of like the actual.

photo is like insane. I'm, I feel weird that sometimes when like older people, like, or people not in our generation set ourselves up. We restart that. We didn't know. All right. You ladies. Isn't it weird how When Gen Xers take their photos, compared to Gen Z, the quality is so different, but they're using the same phone.

Yes, yes, no, I know exactly what you're talking about. Are you talking about filters? No, I'm not talking about filters. No, no, it's like the actual, I don't, I don't know. Because, once in a while, I do use the filter. Maybe, maybe the phone just knows. It's the phone, the phone has, um, No, it's user error. Lighting and stuff that you can control and set it up.

What are you talking about? It does, but I've never done it. And she's always like, why didn't you do that? No, and people are like using like legit cameras, like, you know, the Canon GX7. Yeah. I'm like, damn, I can't just take a picture on my iPhone. And I paid 1, 000. I have to pay another 300, 400. For just a separate camera to take some good pictures.

Yep. Jesus. She's baffled. I'm baffled. So if I'm understanding you correctly, uh, Jalyssa, It's what you're saying is my phone knows I'm old as fuck so it's automatically gonna make use, like, certain types of settings. I mean, your phone has your birthday in there. Oh, yeah, true. This bitch is gonna get a beatdown.

Let's go. What? Hey, Siri, you better fix that shit. Oh my God. You're going to set my settings before you leave tonight on my phone. You're going to check my camera. Is my phone lying to me? When I take a picture, that's not what I really know. No, it's just listening to you. Oh my God. Oh, well. No. So, okay, going back to, we were talking about this topic of, about friendships.

So when it comes to friendships, let's go in, let's dive in a little deeper. How do you guys navigate with perhaps friendships that are toxic or have a lot, have drama in it? Or perhaps you've, have you experienced like, oh yes, cancel culture or even envy or betrayal. Oh, that's a good one. Cancel culture.

Yeah. How, how do you get, how have you navigated through like betrayal or even envy? Going back to like what you said in your introduction, Leticia. The sensitivity now in our generation is just so big like I felt like especially graduating high school when all my friends like left to go to universities like either out of state or out of the county.

I was going to, you know, school locally next to me and it was just harder to like try and make those friendships because it's like, I don't know, can I really be myself? self. Can I like joke around or are my jokes going to be like too much for them or are they going to be too little? You don't know if it's the same community you can build with.

And social media plays such a big part in that because social media created like this division between non sensitive people and created sensitive people. Because I felt like going through high school before COVID, like everyone would joke around, everyone would You know, say things like, Oh, your shoes are so dirty.

And like, now I feel like if I told someone as a joke, like, Oh man, be quiet. Your shoes are dirty. They'd be like, I didn't have time to clean myself. I'm so sorry. It's, it's, yeah, the sensitivity I think is, yeah, yeah, it is definitely. And then social media along feeding with it and creating like, I think scenarios, you know, for people that it's not realistic.

You know, it's, it's not, you know, the world that that's perceived on social media is never the exact. reality, you know, the world that we are really living in. So, um, I think that kind of contradicts how like friendships are maneuvered today. So, and how do you then, like, have you found any tactics or ways to navigate, especially because that creates, I'm sure, like, I don't know, like that.

I know for me, for your generation, honestly, like mental health for me is. is a concern for you guys. So how does that because that's all intertwined because you're saying things like, you know, sensitivity and things that you see and you know, that's not real. So how have you navigated through that? Um, honestly, it's a just kind of like depends on the situation, you know, again, I've been kind of fortunate to be able to have friends in different, um, you know, like industries, some are in the fashion, some are doing the modeling, some are doing the clothing or whatever.

So I've been able to see different. relationships. And I think now, like, as you grow older, you start to kind of, um, like, uh, group people, you know? Okay, these are my friends that I go out with, and I do this with. These are my friends that I work with, and I do these type of things with. So, I think just really, like, you gotta feel, it's like a vibe thing, you know?

You gotta feel people's vibe. You gotta see. You know, what, what are they, how are they moving, you know, how are they carrying themselves and stuff like that. It's really like a vibe test. I feel like you're just like testing everyone's vibe. Their energy. Their energy. So things like that. And again, energies change all the time.

We could be cool today and I could have a bad day and we're not cool tomorrow, you know, so it's like things like that. And people are taking that really personal, really personal. I, I, we're all human. I have bad days. That doesn't mean you're any less of my friend. Yeah, I think it's the lack of grace.

People don't give grace, the empathy that like, you know, the sympathy towards people now is the lack of communication is a very, very big thing, especially when you have like a little tiff in a friendship and You know, it's kind of that thing where it's like, it can be something so little, but it gets portrayed as so big.

And then no one steps up to, to bring it to light. You know, it's just like a, and then it becomes very toxic. So do you find it that it's hard to like to, uh, face like conflict resolution? Like, is it hard? But is it hard because you're not around each other too much and everything is through the phone?

Yeah, and then things get taken out of context and we're not reading people the way they're, they want to be perceived. So it's, it's, yeah. A lot of people also like, when you have, I've always gone through like life having like groups of friends, and when you have a group of like friends, and there's two people in that group, and they have, they're having a tiff, it can be like one or the other going and like.

Speaking to everyone else but the actual person, and words get misconstrued. They have their stories and sides and stuff. Yeah, it gets, you know, messy. She or he could be saying it in a way, like, that I didn't even mean it, so then that person is going to be like, Oh wow, that was kind of like, really rude, but like, I wasn't saying it in a rude way.

Or like, I didn't Even say that and now they're putting words into my mouth and that also brings in like betrayal And it's like are they trying to get me pushed out of our group of friends because they just they don't want me in it Anymore. Yeah, or you feel like oh my god. I just got kicked out of the group text Yeah, like they could take you out, but personally me.

I feel like Going through all the friendships like ups and downs throughout like elementary all the way through high school Now I'm at a point where it's like if it's so easy for you to just say goodbye And not have a simple conversation with me Then like why am I gonna really like put myself down and like lose sleep at night over a friend that doesn't really want To be my friend.

So if I'm understanding it's like it seems like your generation has a big problem with confrontation. Absolutely Huh Because when I grew up, like, if you had a problem, you, you went up, you went straight up to that person's face and be like, yo, you got a problem with me? Like, honestly, that's how it was.

But now with social media, we can go behind a screen and we can talk shit about someone. You can be a lot tougher. See, but going up to someone and saying, oh, do you have a problem with me? I don't navigate my friendships like that. Right. If someone does have a problem with me, and it's causing a conflict in our friendship, I'm giving you space to like, cool down, think about like, whatever.

And also to reflect on like, what I did, what I possibly said. Try and think of everything. But I never want to be the person to go up to that person and being like, Oh, what's the problem? Because then, one, it can be looked at as like, I'm attacking. Or it can be looked at as like, I'm assuming. And we all know, assuming makes an asset of you and me.

Yeah, but I'm going to take it a deep further. I think that's a bit, a bit of a problem though, because now when you grow up, you got to fix things and you got to confront things in the workplace. Oh, absolutely. So here's what I'm going to say. Gen Z gets a bad rap in the workplace. And that's why a lot of Gen Z people, like people that are like, uh, they don't want to hire you.

They don't. And a lot of people don't hire you because I think it's unfair. They say that you're lazy. I don't think that you're lazy. I think you have a problem with speaking straight up. Like, like, let's say me and Monica were working together and she did something wrong or she didn't do it the way I wanted her to do it.

I would go out to her and I'd be like, Mo, listen, you fucked up. I mean, I may not say, I may say, I may not say it like that, but I'll be like. Monica, no, like, you need to do this all over again because this was wrong, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, that's, you have to say it the way it is, and I noticed by the little bit that you both shared, it's the cultural thing where you have been taught to, like, not be confrontational, not to hurt someone's feelings, but guess what?

Like, that's a part of life, but I think also has a, go ahead, Leticia. I think that has to do with a lot of our upbringing and sometimes, like, in our culture, too. I feel like I've, I, you know, I talk about this with my other friends and stuff, and we're all Hispanic. I feel like in Hispanic culture. culture.

We're like kind of raised to, you know, don't talk back to, you know, your, your, your grandparents will talk back to your mom, you know, like shut your mouth, eat your food, don't, you know, so I feel like someone's upbringing is what also affects how they, how they maneuver work relationships, friend relationships, um, school relationships.

So little things like that. I feel like everyone is different in that way, but our generation is really like. Suffering with communication, I think it's the communication, but I think it has to do with social media, like not like having a lot of relationships coming through and texting and not actually talking.

It does. I do. But I do have her, my daughter growing up, Jalyssa growing up in school. She's a very headstrong person. Like she she likes, you know, it's her way and she makes her friends and in life you don't make you don't get along with everyone. And that's okay. You don't have to be friends with everyone.

And it was a big thing in elementary school that she would get in trouble because I was always getting called because she, let's say me and Jessica were friends and let's say Leticia wants to come and be my friend, but I don't, I don't connect with her and I just say, I don't want to be your friend.

Like I'm, or I don't want to sit next to you. It was always, I don't want to sit with you. I want to sit with so and so and she would be considered. a bully by the teachers. No, you have to be everyone's friend. And I would get constantly get called for really like that. Yes, it was it was all the time. And I would ask like, well, did what she mean?

No. Did she call up names? No. Did she do? No. So how is she a bully? Well, she just doesn't. She says she didn't want to be their friend. And I said, Well, guess what? That's life. Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't know that was and they have to grow up and learn that, you know, life. That's life. And that's how you, you're not going to be friends with everyone.

And that's how you select friends. Right. That's why I'm saying everybody's so sensitive. It's like, like she said, you don't want to confront, you don't want to say this because then she's going to say, well, this, you know, why are you hurting my, it's like, you're worried about hurting somebody's feelings.

You can't just be real with someone and tell them how you really feel. I know that's true because there's been times where my daughters would have, you know, problems or issues with someone. I'd be like, just pick up the phone and call her and ask her if she said that. I should be like, nah, I can't do that.

And I'd be like, you're so weird, like, pick up the phone, call her and be like, yo, I heard you said this about me. Is it true? And like, what? Like, squash it. You just squash it. My daughter had a similar situation where it was like a couple of group friends talking and then she was like, well, she told me this, that she said that.

And I said, well, why did so? You know, girl A told me that girl C said this. I go, so did you talk to girl C? No. Why don't you call her? She's like, what do you mean call her? I go, pick up the phone and call her and say, Hey, I heard you said this about me and find out if it's true. No, no. Friend A said she's going to take care of it and she's going to talk to friend E and C and E.

And I'm like, no, you need to handle your own shit. I didn't tell her shit because she's younger. Oh, no, no, no. But I'm like, no, no, you, you need to go out there and you need to find out for yourself. You can't trust A. Like, I would go up to her face and I'd be like, yo, I heard you said this, this, this, this, this.

And she'd be like, yeah, I said it, but not like that. Well, how did you say it? I said it like this, this, this, this. And then I'd be like, oh, because I took it. No, of course not. I didn't mean it like that. OK, squashed. But I do agree with something that Jalyssa said. And I don't know if that's what you were also trying to say, is that it is the approach.

It is how you come up to that person. You're not just going to come up to a person and say like, Yo, what's your problem? Jessica, I don't think it should be aggressive. We did that when we were, I know you since we were little. We did that all the time. We confronted people if we heard rumors. But maybe it wasn't the right way.

Right. We confronted and you should come. Yes. It's the tone because it's the delivery. It's the delivery, which, let's be honest, like, you know, that's what happens, like, if somebody comes up to me like, right, you're right. But yeah, when I told my daughter, I didn't tell her to come strong. I sounded strong right now.

But it was the fact of just find out for yourself. Right, right. But then again, it's also like, Like I said, it was like, if I had a tiff with someone, but they were the one that had a problem with me, it's, at the end of the day, shouldn't they be the one, like, addressing the problem? I think it starts becoming everyone else's problem, too.

Because one person tells another person this, and then that person goes But, like, between the two people It should always, yeah, be Communicating, though, like, I feel like, Mom, like, if I'm mad at you You know, like I'm the one that has a problem with you and I'm like, Oh, I don't, I don't like the way that we had this conversation, you know, it's never like, how do you feel like you're never the one approaching me?

I'm like, I'm like, I'm mad at you because of this. I feel like with friendships, it's the person that's mad at the other person first or the person that has a problem with the other person should be the one addressing the situation. Yeah, I feel like there's always be like a need for a middleman. No, and I'm going to tell you expectation.

I think it depends on how much you care about that person. Because if you really love that person and you care about that person, you care enough to find out what's up with their feelings. Like what's wrong? What, you know, I feel like you think I did something wrong. I don't think I did anything wrong, but I love you and I care about you.

So what is it? Because sometimes I think it's not even you. Sometimes people are going through things and they project their anger when it's not even really about you. It's just. that one thing that happened between you maybe set them off because they're in a pissed off mood about something else. I'm going to tell you right now because I'm, I'm getting close to 50 and I've lived almost more than double.

But, um, don't ever think like that because if you, your feelings are valid. So it doesn't matter if it's, you feel like, well, no, she's the one that should tell me. No, if it's bothering you and you're thinking about it, you can, you can definitely do something about it too. And you don't have to be aggressive.

Of course not. I'm not, you know, the way I talk, you know, I come across that way, but if you care about that person and you care about that friendship, there's no rules. You just, if, if that person means a lot to you and it's bothering you, send a text or, or do an audio text or shit, do something crazy, like go to her house and knock on the door.

What were you going to say? That's what we used to do back then. You were gonna say something. I don't know. I was like, yeah, that was a good agree. No. And that's what I'm saying. Like, these are the things that we can maybe teach you that's old school, but it's effective. Well, one thing that always stuck with me that my mom always told me was you're not gonna all these friends that you have in high school, you're only going to graduate and still be friends with a select of them.

Yes, that's true. I think for any generation, I went into high school and I made so many different groups of friends. Now I only talk to two people from high school. I, I'm only friends with and communicate with like regularly with two people from high school. And it's just crazy because I look back and I was like, Oh, I was a part of this friend group.

I was a part of that friend group. I had all these friends. And that was your world. And that was my world. And then now I don't even know how half these people are doing from unless I see it online. But you're not alone. That's very normal. No. You're not alone. Yeah. I think that's universal. It is universal.

Yeah. In every generation. But I was always jealous of the fact that, you know, like, my mom graduated with, what, I think, your group is like, four, five? Uh, yeah. Yeah, we're five. Yeah. Mm hmm. And you guys have been friends for how many years? Well, some of us since middle school, but most of us from high school.

Yeah. Yeah. And I graduated with two friends. So I was like, it would have been nice to graduate with like four or five people and still be friends. Like I know a lot of people that graduated and have like their friend groups and they're still friends. And I'm like, and the two friends that I graduated with, they're not even friends themselves.

You know what I mean? Like it's two different people. Okay. So. Yeah. It's just different. I feel like. Friendships are definitely harder. It's different the way you communicate and that's what I've, what I've learned from this podcast. I've learned a lot of things, a lot of fun things, so thank you for sharing.

But it's mostly like how, how difficult it really is to communicate with your own peers and your, and like how things can be taken out of context or things can be misinterpreted because no one wants to confront and they don't want to come across as aggressive. So the learning lesson in, in that is like, you're probably going to save yourself a lot of heartache.

If you just talk to the person and confront them in a gentle way. Or the way that makes you feel the most comfortable and you'd be surprised how quickly you're going to solve it and how it's going to be like water under the bridge. So I hope that could be a takeaway that we can give you. And I promise you I won't take pictures like this anymore.

Facebook mom pose. She's going to have them pinned to us now. She's going to go to sleep with nightmares. Facebook mom, Facebook mom, Facebook mom. Do you miss any of the friends that you don't have or like does anybody particularly stand out to you that you're like, man, what, what happened there? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, definitely. For me. Mm hmm. Growing up like, you know, Miami and I had, I grew up in a big community too, like. I've, you know, kids from my neighborhood, we were all closed. I was an outside kid. One of the, you know, I grew up thankfully for a good portion of my childhood before technology became big. I was an outside kid.

I was going outside. My mom said, be back before the sun goes down. So I definitely like sometimes look back because I go back to Miami Lakes every now and then, you know, I go back to like my town. Exactly. And I'm like, damn, you know, like I, I was walking down these streets when I was a kid, you know, and.

Now everyone's kind of doing their own thing, you know, like I think that's like the like bittersweetness of adulthood. You're like, oh wow, you know, I've really evolved, you know, from being a little kid growing up here and now everyone's doing their own thing and this person doing this and I'm here and then this person moved all the way over here.

So I think that's, uh, you know, like a bittersweet kind of like missing. I like that you use that word bittersweet because it is bittersweet. Yeah, yeah, it truly is. Like I have fond memories of friendships that I don't have anymore that I hold dear to my heart, but it. It's a part of life. Yeah. You grow and you become different people.

Mm hmm. But you always hold a, if you hold the good memories and you think back on that person then in a positive way and not a negative way. Yes. Yeah. I think that's like a big thing too with our generation, um, trying to keep that like positivity within like our mental, you know, and like so many, you know, we, we feed off a lot of the social media and like.

Some of the things is not so positive or whatever, but I think, you know, keeping that community of that positivity and still feeding in the, you know, the good things in life, we can Well, I know your generation does have one beautiful thing that I envy. And I mean, this is like, you guys are very self aware of how you impact other people's feelings.

I think Gen Z is really like, empathetic to that. I have actually, my generation was not my generation was, it was cutthroat. It was like, I have empath. Tattooed actually behind my, my neck here. Yeah. Pretty. And my generation did not. We grew up tough, you know, in your face. Like, what did you mean by that?

Well, cause we were first generations of immigrant parents. They were on survival mode and we all. saying earlier about, you know, like the growing up, like, you know, having that Hispanic culture is, uh. It's true. I grew up like that. Abuelito. Yeah. Abuelito. Abuelito is like, eh. You don't, los adultos están hablando.

Yeah. That you don't talk about. That's how I grew up. It makes you tough. It makes you tough. I noticed that. Like, I, I think sometimes I come, cause my daughters will say to me, mom, like, why are you, why are you so tough? Like direct? No, not. Well, yes, it is direct. In your face. Why you, why you say it like that?

Why you gotta be so tough? Like, why you gotta be so, you know, and I'll be like, and I don't even realize I'm doing it, you know? Yeah. It's just, it's growing up. We grew up. I don't know about you Deibys, but I know, I think just you, me. Yeah, yeah. You guys are from, you guys met in New York, no? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, we met here, but I'm from Brooklyn. She's the same thing, Ecuadorian Colombian. Yeah. Oh! So I grew up really rough and I like, you know, I grew up in, in Bushwick and I grew up with a bunch of like, I mean, I, I was 12 years old and I got beat up by three girls. Oh my God. I got jumped. You know, I've been jumped like four times in my life and I'm still here, bitch.

I ain't going nowhere. That's a confrontation that you listening to my podcast. That's our.

What you got to say now, but that is true about the Gen Z ers is that they're very what you were saying, Jay. It's true. I totally agree with that because I live with a Gen Z er and, and, and. I think that's really beautiful because it's like, that's definitely there is a commonality in that, that type of, uh, awareness that, yeah, you're very aware, very aware.

You're reading the room, the vibe, the energy. That's a beautiful thing, you know, and it's admirable. It is where we're like the Gen X was like, all right, we got to get shit done. All right. What, what, what, where are you going? Black and white. Yes. I think it's very, Jessica will be like, all right, we have roles.

Oh, I know you're going to do this. You're going to do that. And, and we're like,

it's definitely how we grew up, but I love it. I love that you beautiful ladies are very sensitive and, but you know, it's okay to be confrontational with certain things you have to, because if you don't, then there's a lot of assumptions. My mom raised me to be very confrontational, and I feel like, as she said, like, in elementary school, I was always labeled as, like, the bully, or, but it was just more putting my foot down, and if I didn't feel comfortable with something, or if I didn't like something.

But even the teachers were saying she was a bully. That's shocking. I was just, I I spoke what I thought, you know, and I never, like, held back and, you know Especially for a girl, too, you know, we're, you know, you gotta be I feel like, you know, growing up as a girl, we're delicate and we Yeah. You know, we cry and stuff.

Yeah, and, you know, soft and stuff, so Exactly. I, you know, I grew up sports. I was playing soccer, you know, I was always outside. A lot of my guy friends You know, I was closer with guys. Yes. So, yeah. It's true. Exactly. Very true. Yeah. Very true. That's Leticia's story. So, that was And that's another thing that's like hard for me for friends.

I always found myself finding it a hard time to make girlfriends rather than guy friends. So, why is that? Yes. I've always been curious about that. With people who gravitate more toto males than I think it's because, like, I have two older brothers, I have a lot of boy cousins, I was always surrounded by guys, like, and, like, getting into sports, it's, when, as a girl, when you play sports, that, it kind of labels you as a tomboy, like, you know, like, she's one of the bros.

Yeah, she's one of the bros. And especially when you're not doing, like, sports that are, like, the delicate, like, girl sports, like, dance, and volleyball, and, yeah. I grew up like that. I was mostly male. You, you ladies are my, like only female friends that I have. Yeah, and you're, you're, you got brothers. I grew up with all of them.

You were the only girlfriend. I feel like too, you know, it's, it's a little, you know, sensitive saying this, you know, with girls. I feel like it's harder cause there, there's always like a, always from the opposite party of, Or so this sense of like competition, you know, Oh, he's prettier than who, you know, like who's, who's got the better outfit than who, whose hair's better, you know, who can, who can get this guy's attention?

Yeah. First. Yeah. Good one. Whose picture looks better than this one? You know, and it's, it's Things like that. Who's makeup routine is better, who's skin care regimen is better, it's always a competition. There's always something. Yes. You know, we didn't have that problem. We just knew Jessica was the pretty one.

She was the pretty one, she had the car, she had the car, she was the pretty one, I was the funny one. I look at pictures of Jessica and I'm like, damn! What are you talking about? I look at her now and Can you imagine, like, being 15 and 16, and Jessica's your friend, and you're like, ba dum, ba dum, bum bum. I got jokes.

You had to survive. No, and when we were out, we always rolled deep. We were in a group. Like, people would think we're in a gang. Damn! People wouldn't even fuck with us, I think, seriously. Like, we really didn't get into any fights or anything. We won, but, like, I've already been beat up, like, I don't care. I don't care.

You can't hurt me. But I think that's how it was. Like, everybody, like, when I went out, it was always in big groups. Yeah, I feel like now when we go out, maybe it's like with one other girl. Oh, one or two other girls. It's. I feel like it's a lot smaller, you know, and then when you go out, you're fortunate enough to meet those friendly people and then, you know, everyone starts being a group, but initially when I go out, it's like, okay, I'm just, you know, I'm going to hit up my one girlfriend.

Do you prefer, do you prefer to be with a smaller group than to have to like, that would be intimidating to roll with a big group or that like that's not even an option? I mean, I think I prefer. I prefer a bigger group because, you know, there's more people, you know, and it's more familiar. You know, you're familiar with.

like, now I'm, I'm rolling into the line dancing place with like 14 people. That feels good, you know, it feels good when there's the cowgirls. I think everyone, you know, initially wants to like, you know, go in, roll in with their people and nice big group and stuff. But I feel like now I, I go out or I see a lot of girls, they just have like, you know, their one girlfriend.

Right next to them, but I was gonna say like right now like in this moment in time. I've had the most girlfriends. I've ever Like ever and do the line dancing through line dancing and like and now through school like I made two friends Through school and it can be very intimidating, you know, and but now I'm like I look I look back at it and I'm like, you know, these friendships are like, really good.

They're super healthy. That's right. Like, even though I may not have known them for the longest, it's weird how you can feel that, like, connection. Yeah, the community with, with people. But it's like, you've known them for 10 years. Like, I feel closer with them than I've You know, then I can feel closer with someone that I've been friends with for like 10 years.

Absolutely. I had a job that I worked only for four years, and to this day, I have three friends from that job. I was in my early 30s, um, which is so young. I mean. Trust me when I tell you, you're gonna realize how, how young you are right now. But um, yeah, they're, they're so close to me. And you can meet some of the most beautiful people.

You're gonna meet some of the most beautiful people that you haven't even met yet. How about that? And, and friendships come, you, you have your friendships of all time. And then you have the ones you've met now. And then there's gonna be the ones that maybe one day you meet when you're 40. And you're like, Wow.

Like, you know, and those, that's the beauty of evolving and growing and becoming your own. There's some pretty amazing people out there. You just have to make sure you leave a little crack open for them to let them in, you know? Is there anything that you guys do with friends that you do like for self care?

Oh yeah. I mean, hey, I do facials. I, I, you know, when I first started my, my facials and stuff, I feel like that alone, I love helping people, you know, like self care. I'm always promoting self care as this. You're glowing. You're literally glowing right now. I'm always, you know, like with my friends. Hey, let's go, let's go out and just have like a girls, you know, night.

I feel like just keeping like that girlhood community is so like sacred now and stuff. Or, you know, I'll go out with my friends like, hey, let's go on a nature trail walk. I love my nature trails. Yeah, you've been doing that. I love my nature trails. That's good. Getting some sunlight. Sun, sun, just getting sun.

I feel like doing more healthier activities rather than going out and getting drunk and, you know, like doing the same. crap or whatever. I think it's something so nice about like doing those healthy routines with other people and creating that bond through those activities. Yeah, I think that that's one thing that I will say about your generation that I think is a beautiful thing.

I feel like I didn't think about those things when I was your age. I was hanging out and hanging out and hanging out and what's the next place And who's picking me up? Who are we picking up? That was our version of self care. Yeah. And I look back and I'm like, man, I really wish my mindset would have been in a different place.

And that's one thing your generation definitely does do. I think you guys are doing things a lot younger than, like sooner, younger than we are. Like, you know. Yeah. I think taking care of ourselves. Do it with your friends or things that like I'm doing now, you know? So that's, that's a beautiful thing.

That's good. Yeah. What about you? Do you like self care stuff with friends or what would you describe as self care, like, to do with friends? Um, a couple of my friends and I, like, we'll plan to go to the gym together. Yes. And, like, we'll go to the gym. Or, like, like I said earlier, like, line dancing is, like, a very big, like Therapeutic, like you mentioned.

Yeah, it's so therapeutic. Like, you go there and you're not even thinking about anything. Like, sometimes Sorry mom, I forgot to text my mom. Um, it's like, and it's, you know, it's getting late and my mom's probably freaking out in bed like, where is this girl and I'm just over here on the dance floor, just dancing away.

You know, having a good time, but the line dancing is definitely like a big thing for us for sure that we all do. Yeah, I think, again, um, and, and the beach, yes, the beach is a big, the beach. The beach is definitely something for me. As a Floridian, yeah. Not a lot of people take advantage of the beach. I really was like, Damn, I need my beach.

When I was in New York. Because they all warned me, Don't go to the beaches there. Don't go to the water. Oh, right. And I never went. And then when I would come visit, and you know, throughout the months and stuff, I was like, I got to go to my beach. I got to go to my beach. I definitely think like getting any pure kind of like, Sunlight.

Sunlight. Yeah. Helps with like the anxiety. Mm hmm. The depression. There's research. I was sharing with you when I was dealing a lot with my, um, anxiety, and going outside and just being out in the sun for like 30 to 45 minutes. Alone, completely shifted my attitude.

But I think that's what plays into part of like, during COVID with like, people feeling lonely. Yeah. It was, you were trapped inside your house. Mm hmm. You had Everyone forgot to step outside. Everyone Yeah, to go take a walk or whatever. And like, that's probably what impacted a lot of people's mental health.

Mm hmm. And their state of mind because You're trapped in a little corner, four corner room and, yeah. I know I was going crazy. I think what I've really learned from this is, you know, that we have a lot of differences and yet we all have commonalities. I mean, do we all agree? There's a lot of similarities, yeah.

I mean, the fact that, uh, we value friendships and how important they are. And I love, Leticia, that you said, like, having that community feel. That's me. Like, I, I have to feel like. I believe in and trust the fact that there's still good people out there and that what you put out is what you get back. So if you truly believe that you can reach out to your community, whether through different activities like line dancing and even through, you know, going to school and venturing out in a new.

career or even through work or any self care going out for a walk. Like, you know, you can utilize, there's a commonality with like activities and bringing your people with you and spending time doing things that are healthy, especially for the Gen Zers who, you know, I've learned today is a lonely generation and, but there's so many things that you can utilize as tools to help you overcome all those things and that you're not alone and that there is a community out there that you can tap into.

Thank you. And we learned so much. So, um, yeah, I mean, I think it's important to also that we also have to believe that we can tap into that community and that'll reach and come back to us. And I learned a lot about your generation today, so thank you so much. And overall, that, you know, the value of friendships, I mean, we all need a network of support to get us through the different stages of life.

Especially you ladies where you're at right now, and I don't know, is there anything else that anybody wants to add? Well, I mean, just to wrap it up, I think, what are two things that you could say, well, what's one thing you say that you love about your generation, and what's one thing that you, not necessarily hate, but wish you could improve on?

Um, I think one thing I, I really appreciate, again, is our awareness, you know, and how we're really impacting people with our choice of words and our delivery and stuff. So, and we're also teaching, you know, the maturity. There you go. You know, um, people of much older generations and even with, you know, with my work relationships, I work with older women in the, you know, uh, med spa industry and in the skincare, a lot of it is catering to older women.

So I, you know, I, I feel like we're both learning from both generations and stuff and how, how to be with each other and how to take care of one another. Keeping that, uh, unity still with our people and, um, And to improve or that you don't like? Hmm, I think, yeah, I think the lack of, um, well, again, a little being too, too sensitive, but also the lack of, uh, grace and empathy.

Yeah, I think is we're kind of like forgetting about that. And again, we're all human. Okay. So, yeah, I feel like we should give each other some, some more grace for our generation. And you, Julissa, what are Things you love about your generation and things that you don't love. This one actually plays on both sides.

Okay. Social media. I feel like social media, I love it because it can connect you through with people and like, create a community to where you can be friends. Like, that's what it did for me with the line dancing community, honestly. Okay. Social media really brought that closer for us, but it's also in a negative aspect.

Where people use it to tear each other down. Mm-hmm . And critique and like compare to one another and like, you know, use it for the negative reasons rather than the positive reasons. Is it possible if you make a friend online, is that a, do you think it's a real friend? Is it possible to say this is a real friend?

Yeah. I feel, feel, but you've never met them. I feel like a friend doesn't define what's in front of you. Mm. You know, like. physically. Okay. So online friends can be very impactful. Yeah. I know a lot of, you know, like the streamers and stuff, they make genuine friendships, you know, through their people meeting online and stuff like that.

It's yeah, it's like a, it's real. It's real. Thank you so much for your honesty, ladies. I mean, I was just horsing around later earlier today, but I really, I really appreciate everything that you shared with us. I learned a lot. And, uh, I think you're both so beautiful, and I hope you believe in yourselves.

You go for your dreams. Uh, don't be afraid to use your voice. A little confrontation never hurts nobody. But um, thank you and thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys for making the time. Thank you ladies. I really enjoyed this segment and uh, thanks you so much for coming. Thank you guys for being here.

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