Does Fashion Have an Expiration Date?

In this episode of Red Lips Real Talk, we explore how fashion evolves as we age and why style doesn't come with an expiration date. We share honest conversations about body changes, confidence, gray hair, comfort, and letting go of outdated fashion rules.

From wardrobe staples and easy outfit formulas to celebrity style inspiration, tailoring tips, and the realities of fast fashion, we discuss what it means to dress for the woman you are today. We wrap up with a fun fashion game and a reminder to stop saving your favorite pieces for someday—wear them now.

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Oye, mi gente, you're listening to the Red Lips Real Talk Podcast, where we talk about life, love, and everything in between. You already know, it's time to get real. Dale.

Fashion doesn't expire. It evolves. For too long, society has tried to attach an age limit to style as if confidence, expression, and self-definition somehow come with a cutoff date. But every year, that idea gets challenged more and more by women who are proving that getting older doesn't mean getting quieter.

It means getting clearer about who you are. This episode is about presence. It's about women who are stepping into every room, every stage, and every spotlight with style that doesn't ask for permission. Not to look younger, not to blend in, but to fully express themselves at every stage of life. Because the truth is, fashion was never meant to have an expiration date.

It was meant to reflect identity, and identity doesn't retire. So let's get into it Hey, ladies. How's everybody doing? Hey. Good. Hey. You guys had a good weekend? Yes. I went to see The Devil Wears Prada. So did I. And I'm gonna tell you, I went by myself. Another thing that I'm very proud of because I'm not the type of person t- that's very comfortable doing a lot of things by myself.

Mm-hmm. Um, I showed up, and there was a lot of women there that were really dressed up, like they were going to weddings. Yeah. And I don't know why I g- I thought that was, like, so cute. They were just, like, so excited to see the movie, and they were just, like... I don't know if they were girlfriends or sisters.

I, I, I mean, I wouldn't know, but they were having so much fun, and it was a really nice thing to see that. And at the same time, it's like, it's been two decades- Yeah. Yeah ... since the first movie came out, so it has to be, like, it hits you in the feels. Right. It's, like, very nostalgic. Did you guys feel that way?

I did. Absolutely. I loved it. Yeah. It was so good. It was a great movie. You loved it? Yeah, I did, very much. Yeah. I li- I liked it. I wouldn't... Personally, I wouldn't say I loved it. I loved the first one. Right. Like, the first one is one that I could watch over and over and over again. The second one, I don't know if I could watch it over and over again.

Mm-hmm. Um, I did appreciate a lot of things, like for example, character development. I felt like they really tried to show growth in the characters. Yeah. Um, the fashion, oh, man. Yeah. Especially the fashion in that a lot of these women are, are older. Right. Right? The m- one of the main characters, Miranda, she's supposed to be in her 70s.

Yeah. She was, like, literally one of the be- the best-dressed ones. Yeah. She looked great. They all, everyone looked... The budget, I mean, the budget on the fashion must have been insane. Oh, yeah. That alone. So I lo- I loved that. T- the parts that I really didn't care for too much, but this is just my personal opinion, like, the love interest, there was no chemistry.

I felt like it was not really needed in the movie. That was, like, a whole 30 minutes that was just, like, not necessary, and the Lady Gaga thing, I just thought it was really stupid. I, I, I thought it was so dumb. It wasn't ex- it was just, like, something that they put in the movie to put in the movie. Right.

Um- I found it funny. I di- I found it funny. Yeah. Like, those, uh, uh, I'm nitpicking here, but, um, but I think the movie was very good. Would I die to see it again? No. But the first one, I could see that again tonight- Right ... before I go to bed, you know? But, um, the- I would watch it again over and over again. I would too.

Yeah. I, I enjoyed it very much. But it's, it's- Yeah, yeah, yeah ... I think it's all over the place. Like, some people- Mm-hmm ... feel exactly like you ladies do- Yeah ... that they loved it, and some people just were like, "Oh, it's too much hype," you know? Right. But do I think that if you loved The Devil Wears Prada, the first one, you should definitely see the second one.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure, because there's a lot of closure in, in, in some areas- In some areas ... without ruining the movie too much for you. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, I couldn't believe how ama- well, first of all, everybody looked amazing, but Lucy Liu. She looked great. She looked great. I mean, I could not. Did you see Lucy Liu's dress at the premiere?

I... Is that the one that she was wearing that was black? Yeah, the black lace. I saw it really quickly. I have, I have to see it again. What was this, scandalous? She looked amazing. No, she just looked great. Yeah. She looked amazing- No, they all looked beautiful ... in that dress. I mean, you look at that dress and you think to yourself, "Would I, could I wear that?

Would I wear that?" You know? I don't know. I wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. She looked amazing. Exactly. Listen, if I had their body, I, I would wear so many things that I would not wear today. Yeah. Because I, you know, I don't feel too confident right now because my body is very different than it was even two years ago, you know?

So that's something that I'm struggling with and trying to get comfortable with my ever-changing body. Um, you know, there were some parts in The Dev- The Devil Wears Prada where they were, like, talking about body positivity. Did you pick up on that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And they were talking about, you know, being a size six, and I was like, "I would kill to be a size six right now."

You know, and there was some awkward silences in the movie theater when that part came up, I noticed. Yeah. Yeah. In the, in the movie theater that I was at, when that part came up, there wa- you could tell there was a few women that- Well, people can get offended by that, for sure ... that were offended by that.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I, I just think that the fashion was incredible. Yeah. But that's something that I'm still trying to work on because there are a lot of things that I do wanna wear, but like I said, not to keep harping on it, my body's changing, but also I think, "Should I wear that? Can I wear that because I'm an older woman?"

I, I feel that way. Right, I, a lot of people feel that. I think a lot of people feel that way. Yeah. Especially, yeah, as you get older- Mm-hmm ... you definitely, your style changes. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, what's, what's something that you used to wear, Maritza, when you were really, like, young that you loved, and you're, today you'd be like, "I, I would never wear that again"?

Is there something you can think of? No, nothing. 'Cause I can tell you, I used to wear short jean shorts. Like jean shorts. Yeah. Right. And they were, they were kinda, not too short, but they were short. I would never wear that today. Even if, even if I was, even if I could 'cause I had the body for it, I don't think I would.

Does that make sense? Yeah, that pr- yeah. I have, I mean, I wear, I do wear them- Mm-hmm ... but around the house. Do I go out in them? No. Yeah. If I'm, I mean, maybe a short run to Publix and- Yeah ... pray that I don't see anybody I know. But that's, but when I see women that have that courage, and they look great, and they're like- Right

I admire it. And I'm like, I wish I could do that, and I can, but I don't have that confidence just yet. Right, that's the key word. Yeah. It's, it's base- basically on- Mm-hmm ... how, how you feel about- Yeah ... yourself and- Absolutely ... period. So seeing all these women, you know, not just in the movie, but I think in general, like on social media, body positivity, and wom- I follow a lot of, uh, content creators that are- Yeah

in their 50s and 60s, and I'm like, "Oh my God." They're just, their hair's all white Mm-hmm And they, they just look so freaking good. And that makes, that makes me think to myself, "Maybe I'm being a little too hard on myself." I think you are. I think you are. But there's people that will never, that just, they don't like it, and they'll never let their hair grow out.

They'll always dye it till they die. Yeah. Yeah. And I've, I've met a lot of older people that are like that. Mm-hmm. So I just don't, I've, I've never wear my hair gray. Yeah. And that's okay- Yeah ... 'cause that, whatever makes you feel good- Yeah ... do it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, if that makes you feel good, then there's nothing wrong with it.

Right. Yeah. Definitely not. It's really all about what you like. Yeah. It doesn't matter what anyone else- Mm-hmm ... like- You're the one looking at yourself- Right ... in the mirror, so you, yeah, definitely. But I can under- I, I can relate to what Jasmine's saying as well. Yeah. Like, you know, I also have changed my style as well because my body doesn't look the same.

Mm-hmm. So, and my biggest thing is comfort. Yeah. So I wanna be comfortable. Yeah. I wanna look nice, but I wanna be comfortable. So is this comfortable? Am I gonna be comfort- I usually ask myself, am I gonna, am I gonna be comfortable in this all night? Yeah. You know, what can I do to make myself a little bit more comfortable?

Well, it's funny you mentioned that- Yeah ... because, um, some of the rules that are now being broken, especially by women over the age of 40, is, which we've talked about already, the long hair, but also, like, can I wear, like, a short skirt? Um, you know, can I still wear a bikini on the beach? And they're doing it, you know?

Which is, I think, an, an amazing thing that's happening in, in society today. But I also asked myself, okay, not everybody has that confidence, but they still wanna look good, you know? So what are some, like, rules, like, or some reliable things that women can do to make them feel well put together but still kind of modern?

'Cause I started research- researching that for myself. Mm-hmm. And I thought, oh, that might be actually something good for s- maybe somebody listening to this show right now that struggles a little bit with fashion. 'Cause not everybody is into fashion, but they wanna look, like, well put together or nice.

Right. So here are some of the things that I found. It says that invest in foundation pieces. So this is gonna sound silly, but it's the truth. You need to first start with a really good bra. You have to have a good bra that fits you properly, a good strapless bra as well. You need to invest in great quality jeans, a black pair, a dark blue pair, and, like, a, like, a lighter blue pair, a blazer that fits, a good quality white T-shirt, black T-shirt, and a good coat, especially if you live, like, in the colder states.

But here's the thing that blew me away. They're like, why don't people get their clothes tailored? You can pay an extra 15 to 20 to $25. You go to a tailor. You say, "Hey, I bought these jeans. Hey, I bought this, this dress. Hey, I bought..." And just have them tailor it. You can go to a lot of dry cleaners that have- tailoring services, and you can make a 50, $40 dress look like a $500 dress because it fits your body.

So these were some of the... I was like, "It's true." Like, I have so many outfits that I like, but I'm like, "Oh, it's too long. Oh, the arms are too long. Oh, this fits me a little tight." And I'm like, "Why didn't I just take it to the tailor and pay them $15 to make it m- fit my body?" Yeah. That's a good idea. So I thought- Yeah

I thought I would share that today on this show because honestly, I never really thought about doing that, and now I will. Now I will. I, I've thought about it, I just don't. Yeah. I mean- I'm like, uh, I'm not gonna do it ... my mom's a seamstress. Mm-hmm. So I get it done for free. Awesome. But I buy things sometimes, and I'm like, you know...

Um, as a matter of fact, I bought a romper, and, you know, uh, this romper, I don't know, like, you know how some of these pants are a little, little high-water, but that's, like, the style? Yeah. Okay. Well, it drives me crazy. But I like the top s- part of the romper. So I'm looking at myself in the mirror and I'm like, "Oh, this is like...

I hate how high it is," you know, like, to my ankle. And I said, "But they would look good as shorts. Like, make it into a shorts." Okay. So my mom is turning my romper into, instead of pants- Nice ... shorts. But I do that all the time. I f- I find a dress and she, you know, I'm like- Fixes it for you ... to me, I don't like things that are too flowy.

Yeah. I like things n- not tight- Yeah ... but- Fitted ... you know, del cuerpo, you know- Yeah ... like a little, a little- Yeah ... you know, fitted. And, um, I always have, you know, like I'll have her take it in a- Mm-hmm ... take it in a little bit. Yeah. The way, you know, just to the way I like it. That's, um, and it's such a simple thing that makes a huge difference, 'cause I'm gonna tell you what happened.

I bought myself a tropical dress for... I just needed a tropical dress, okay? So I went to a store, I bought it, and the lady told me, "Do you want me to tailor it for you? And you can come pick it up in two days." I always would say no. "No, no, no." Like, I just would say no. And she goes, "It's $20." And I said yes. And she goes, "Okay, go ahead and put the dress on, and I'll meet you in the fitting room."

She came. She took her time. I paid the $20. She's like, she called me a few days later and she's like, "Your dress is ready for pickup." I picked it up. She goes, "Do you wanna try it on before you leave just to make sure?" I usually would say no, but I said yes. It s- it sounds so silly, but I'm gonna get to the point.

I tried it on. It fit exactly for my body. It was the best- Right ... $20 that I spent on tailoring something for my body, and I wish I would've done that ages ago. Mm-hmm. So if you struggle a little bit, maybe you're, maybe you're very petite. Maybe you're, you know, five feet tall or five foot one. It, that's a, that's hard, you know.

Yeah. 'Cause I'm five foot four and I find things to be- Too long ... long. Yeah. Yeah. So people who are under five foot four, they struggle. So yeah, think about it. That's something that I think you're gonna be very pleasantly surprised on how it's gonna, how it's gonna make you feel good when you look in the mirror.

I tell my daughter to do that. If it's too long or if, if it's too tight here- Mm-hmm ... or too loose in one section, go see if you can get it tailored. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah It's, it's a thing here b- well, because my mom's always been a seamstress. Yeah. So people in my family, they know that, so they... My mother-in-law buys dresses, and if it doesn't fit her- Yeah

a certain way that she may like, or maybe it's not covering enough of her shoulders 'cause she doesn't want it to show too much- Yeah ... yeah, my mom does magic. That's awesome. I wish I had- That's awesome ... magic hands I just started doing that. Here's some more suggestions. Do you guys want me to share a few things?

'Cause they're actually pretty good. Yeah. Here it says that if you're gonna wear, um, matching sets, two pieces in the same fabric and color worn together or separately, linen sets in summer, knit sets in winter. Look intentional. Taste is zero thinking. You just grab it, and you put it on, and it photographs beautifully.

This is for people who struggle with knowing what, what to put on, and they gotta go somewhere and look well put together. Um, a good slip dress with a layer. A satin or silk slip dress under a blazer. You can even wear a denim jacket with it or some type of, like, cashmere cardigan, and it looks very well put together, sometimes a little bit sexy, and you do not look sloppy.

Right. You just look well put together. A good quality white T-shirt, like, that is an investment piece. Go get... If it... Whatever it costs you, if it looks good on you, get it, 'cause that's a good investment. And then here it says, uh, trousers. Uh, you wanna get tailored trousers, and you wanna make sure that they're either in black, in, like, a beige color, like neutral colors, or brown.

And a good pointed shoe. It could be even flats. They don't have to be heels. All of these things that I've mentioned are all, like, kinda neutrals, and you can mix-match them. They, they may cost a little money because they're like, um... What do they s- they call it investment pieces. There's always gonna be fashion that's trending.

Right. But then there's fashion that's forever, and I think that's what's taken me a long time because I was always trying to keep up with what's trending, and what's what's, what, what's always trending doesn't necessarily look good on me, you know? Or look good at all. Or look good at all. Or look good at all.

That's a good point. Yeah. That, that whole, uh, Met Gala. Oh, gosh. Those, those... I mean- Yeah ... I don't know what that is. It's the bodycon tight- So what's the theme? ... plastic pieces that they have going on on. Yeah, but what? Why, why do you have antennas coming out of your h- like, I don't understand that. I never understood the themes.

And then the, the dress with the rope, like, the- I'm not sure. We have to ask the- ... the little man that's coming and hugging her. I haven't seen that. The designers. The designers that make them wear this. I honestly, I only saw- I don't know ... a couple, so I'm kinda out of it. I only saw Kim Kardashian, which I didn't think she looked too bad.

I just didn't understand the theme. Did you see the one... Who was the one wearing, it was like a cream? It looked like the dress was being taken off. And it was, like, hanging I didn't see that And there was a pa- the part, the top part was like a, like a shell I don't- But it was- I don't know names ... it almost looked like she was n- nude on top and, like, taking off the dress halfway, like, it was hanging.

There was one that- But what was the theme? I, I only saw- I, I don't- ... a couple pictures, so I feel kind of like, like I can't really participate too much because I don't know a lot. But I will say I never have understood the Met Gala. I don't get it. No, I, I don't get it either. I don't understand it. Why? I mean- I still remember the dress that Kim Kardashian wore that she looked like she was a sofa.

Well, Cardi B looked like she had a sofa on her shoulders. She had this, these pillows, like, here. And, um, it was- Well, I think at that point, that's like, that type of, of fashion is more, like, artistic. It's not stuff that you're gonna wear to Publix. Very artistic, right. That's what I said, it's like, it's more like art.

It is. It, it's definitely art. Because- Yeah ... you have metal pieces and it, it was just weird. One lady looked like she was the Statue of Liberty. Yeah. Yes, I saw that. She was covered- From head to toe ... and Bad Bunny looks like he's aged. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't understand the Bad Bunny thing. I w- I even at, earlier today, I was like, "What was, what was the whole point of that?"

Mm-hmm. But I will tell you, here are some celebrities that I l- look at the way they've been carrying themselves since the, since I've known them as celebrities, and I always felt like, okay, these women always look well put... Granted, they have stylists. I'm, I, I, uh, I'm not trying to say that we can compete with that, but you can mimic maybe what they're wearing and try and find it at a more affordable price for yourself.

So here are some of the style i- icons that I like. Nicole Kidman. She's 58 years old, and I think she's just elevated style without even really- Trying ... trying. Yeah. Do you agree with that about Nicole Kidman? I do. I like her fashion. Mm-hmm. And she always looks put together. Um- Again, I am not a fashion person, so maybe- What's something that you struggle with with fashion, Monica?

Because I know that we've talked about this in the past, and what is it, what is it that... Is it that you don't like it, or is it because you don't feel comfortable shopping for things for yourself? Well, I hate shopping. Oh, you do? I do. Okay. I hate it. Okay. Do not try to ask me to go to the- But you hate it because you don't, you, you're struggling to find stuff for yourself, or you just don't like it?

I just don't like it. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. I mean, of course I struggle a lot of times to find things that I would like on myself. Yeah. Um, but I just, I hate the being there, trying stuff on- Yeah ... just the whole interaction, just the whole interaction. Well, you know, I have a girlfriend who's similar to you, that she doesn't like shopping.

She doesn't enjoy it. She hates the fitting room. The, the whole concept of taking off her clothes and trying things on in a fitting room is just so uncomfortable to her. So she actually orders a lot... I, I've never done this before, but she does it all the time. She orders a lot of things online, tries them all on at home, and returns everything- Yeah

that she doesn't like. And I told her, "They don't get upset. They don't flag you." She's like, "Jasmine, they don't care, so long as the clothes is not damaged and you haven't taken off..." So that's something that you may start- I've been meaning to try, like- To do that ... I haven't done it, but those, I don't know if you...

I think it's called Stitch, or there's different ones where you provide all your information, your size. You know, you gotta measure yourself- Mm-hmm ... and give them all the measurements. Mm-hmm. And they send you outfits. They shop for you. Yeah, and then you pick what you want- Yes ... you keep it, and you return the rest.

I have a friend who did that. I was like, "Oh, that's pretty interesting." Oh, so you never tried it? No. Okay. No. And it's, it's a little c- like, well, some of them can be- Yeah, it's pricey. Yeah ... it's pricey. It's pricey, but it's legit because once they, once you become their client, and they, they'll, you know, they stay with you, and they get to know you, and then you have, like, your own little stylist.

Your own stylist? Yes. Yes. I know Amazon has that little try before you buy type thing, right, where you pick- Oh, really? I didn't know that. Yeah. You pick these little outfits. You, you, they send it to you- Yeah ... you try it on, and you return it. Yeah. Awesome. We'll see. Try before you buy it? Yeah. Okay. I think, I think people should- I didn't, I haven't done that

honestly, there's people listening to us that are, that feel the same way. I didn't mean to put you out on the spot like that. No. But it's because I know that y- you don't really like it too much. Yeah. Um, but it's necessary because you do get invited to places and, and things, and you need- Yeah ... you know, you need certain outfits.

Yeah. So if you're that type of person, you should look into that. Yeah. That's why I always lean to black. I love black. Why I always lean to black. Can't go wrong with black. But you can't go wrong with, with black. I think black is elegant, classic. You can just wear colorful shoes and colorful earrings, different style hair, and it c- and that little black, that LBD will go a long way, you know?

But here's some more, uh, artists that I think when I see the way they dress, I'm like, oh, and they're older ladies. Cate Blanchett, Sandra Bullock is 61, Halle Berry 59. Of course, Jennifer Lopez- Yeah ... 56, Salma Hayek 59, and Michelle Obama 62. All of these women are, and Lucy Liu, and all of these women are different ethnicities.

Um, what they share is that they're older women. Right. But they're all Hispanic, Asian, Black, white, you name it. And, um, I'm just like, wow, these are women that I look at, and I may not have their body, or I may not look like them, but I, I like the way they carry themselves, the- their fashion. So I try and go online and maybe find something that they're wearing.

Actually, fun tip here, ladies. There was a, there was a movie I was watching, and this girl was wearing a shirt that I liked. I loved it. I took the picture with my phone, and I put it on, on Go- I went on Google- Google search, mm-hmm ... and I said, "Find it." And not only did it find it, but it found the dupes. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. And I was like, "Why haven't I been doing this?" That and Pinterest. I love Pinterest. Pinterest. It just- Th- there are so many amazing things now out there, ladies, that do not... If you're feeling frumpy, 'cause I have had my frumpy era, please don't do that to yourself. Like, get out of that frumpiness and find yourself again because there's way too much out here to be living.

There's way too much fashion out here for you not to be trying it. But I do like comfort. I'm, I'm a big one on comfort. That's the thing. Yeah. Athletic leisure is a big one. Love it. Yeah. I will- Like you said, pointy shoes- I'm moving to this ... and I was like, "Oh, heck no." I'm gonna wear my sneakers. Yeah. The problem, too- Well, sneakers are great

the shoes, like, they, they're all in n- nothing comes in, um, wide sizes, so if you have wide feet- Yeah ... you're pretty much screwed. Well, they have, they have wide- Not a lot. Not a lot. No, no, not a lot. No. No. But they do have wide- They're all, like, granny-looking shoes, and it's like, eh. Oh. Well, I don't know. I wouldn't say all of them.

Yeah. It, no, it is- Nike doesn't make anything wide. No. No. True. Nothing wide, so if you- Really? Yeah. Nike, you would think that they would. You would think. Yeah, they don't. No. Huh. They don't. Well, there are stores, I mean, companies that specialize on wide- I'm sorry, I thought you- ... wide feet ... you were talking about heels.

That, too. But they do have wide- They do have special places, though ... they do have wide shoes, but they don't look, they're not cute. The shoes that, they come in wide are not- Ooh, girl, I'm gonna hook you up. I'm gonna tag you- You know what I'm saying? I don't know ... on this company on Instagram- I've searched.

I've searched ... that does wide shoes. Yeah. Yeah, I'll send it to you. Not only do they look- This is not your s- yeah Yeah ... not your cup of tea. Yeah. I got you. And I'm not wearing fucking stilettos, so- Yeah. ... not happening. Exactly. Yeah. I love a good stiletto. Fuck that. Not me. I, I used to l- I mean, I used to wear heels all the time, but- Yeah

I barely wear them anymore. Yeah. Just to go to, like, parties, weddings, you know, those kind of things- Mm-hmm ... I will wear heels. Mm-hmm. But when we go out to lunch, I mean, I'm no longer in heels anymore. Yeah. I'm in my sneakers or my sandals, cute sandals. I like to wear heels because I'm, I consider myself petite when it comes to my height.

I'm only five foot three. Mm. I'm actually five foot four, but now I'm five foot three and a half. I'm shrinking. If you want me to be honest. And I feel like a little heel gives me a boost of confidence. Mm-hmm. And, like, you know, it, it raises m- I'm gonna be so embarrassed, but, like, raises my butt a little bit in certain pants and stuff.

So I like the way it looks, but I'm definitely wearing heels that are fat, like a chunky heel. I don't wear the, you know, those thin heels anymore because j- You know, I'll wear them for, like, maybe 20 minutes for a picture or something silly like that. For the grand entrance. For a grand entrance. But shit, I felt it last week.

I was like, "I can't wear this shit no more. I'm gonna die." Yeah. I'm gonna fall down the stairs. I can't. You know, and Monica, you say athletic leisure. I don't know if you saw when, uh, the cast of The Devil Wears Prada was being asked what do they consider fashion faux pas. Did you guys see that? I did. And, well, the first thing that they said was, uh, Crocs.

Yeah. Yeah. Which I thought, I... Listen, I hate Crocs. When I saw the Crocs, uh, that had a heel, I actually contemplated buying them. Oh, really? Yeah, 'cause I thought they were so, like, something that we, I could put, like, away and be in, in the future and be like- Yeah ... "Look, this was a thing." Oh, how fun. You know? Not necessarily wear them, but I thought that might be something that would go down in history as being kind of silly.

Um, but I love athletic leisure, so when they said that they thought athletic leisure was a faux pas, I was like, oh, no. I- Yeah. No, do not take my athletic leisure away. I love it. Well, Emily Blunt was very, very, uh, adamant about, she loves it. She lives in it. If she could, she would live in it. Yeah. She, of course, she's not gonna wear it to the gala or- Yeah

anything like that, but- Yeah ... yeah. She loves it. She loves it. But there's a lot of companies now that have athletic leisure, um, clothes. It feels like athletic leisure, but it's more like a trouser and a- Yeah. And, and, uh, and technically it's still considered athletic leisure because of the type of material- Yeah

that they're using. Yeah. But I think they look so well put together and so polished that I was like, I completely disagree. But the Crocs, those things are ugly as shit. Mm-hmm. And Anne Hathaway was, like, in favor of the Crocs. That was- They're comfortable. I mean, I don't own a pair. My kids have Crocs. Yeah.

And I'll slip them on to, to go outside or- Yeah ... you know, throw trash away, whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I wear them- They're comfortable ... in the house. Yeah. Like, outside- They're comfortable ... in the backyard. But I wouldn't- Yeah. I'm not gonna hang out all day- But it's like, I would see a hot next in the Crocs ... or go to the park.

Yeah, no. Yeah, but it's like if you see a really, really good-looking man, and you're like, "Wow," and then he's wearing Crocs, it's like, it's over. I'm done. That, like, I can't. I don't wanna look at you. Just walk away. Oh, they don't bother me that much. But that, that's what they say. A, a, a man that's aging is distinguished.

Mm. Right? They say that, but women, women I think it's getting better. I think it's getting better for women that, that are aging, but we're still not like the men like that. Men would- I think, I think for women it's harder. It's harder. Like you say- Yeah ... it's, like, how you're feeling. Yeah. How you're feeling.

Yeah. Now sometimes we get bloated. Mm-hmm. You know, like, all these things kinda- Yeah ... you know, you think about your outfit. Yeah. You second-guess yourself. Yeah. If I feel like wearing this today, I'm like- Yeah ... how, how do I- You know, I'm gonna say something that's very vulnerable, but I think it's, it's important to be authentic and to be transparent.

And I've always liked to feel pretty. I like- I've always liked to feel a little, a little sexy. And, um, I'm struggling with that. I d- I don't, I, I have days that I don't feel like that about myself anymore. I don't have that confidence, which is un- I think which is understandable. Um, and it brings me down, you know?

I can relate to that. I can- It, it brings me down ... but I do also- Yeah ... I've always, well, I've actually- Yeah ... my dad has kind of put that in my brain- Yeah ... to always look good, to always dress up, you know, like that kinda thing. Yeah. So I do also like to look pretty. Yeah. Um- And make, you know- Yeah ... I guess sexy.

I don't know if sexy is the word for me, but- Yeah, I don't know if that's the right word, but- But I do like to look nice. I like- Yeah ... to look pretty. Yeah. And I understand what you're saying 100%. Um- It's something that I'm, I'm coming to terms with ... I'm not sure. Right. Yeah, I'm coming to terms with it. For me- Yeah

I think now, where I'm at now, I'm just- Mm-hmm ... kinda like, "Uh-uh, I just wanna be comfortable." Yeah. Like, I'm like, "Let me try to find something pretty- Yeah ... pretty comfortable." That's a good one. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like- Yeah ... I just, right now, that's my big thing. And I think- Yeah ... I think that's normal when, especially when your body changes a lot, you know, 'cause I used to know what looked good on me.

Right. And I know, okay, even if I'm having a bad day and I'm bloated or I got my period or whatever, I know that that's gonna look good on me. Not anymore. Not anymore. I can relate. Not anymore, and I'm like, "Shit." Yeah. Like, that was my, that was my I-can-put-this-on-and-I-know-I'm-gonna-look-nice outfit. Yeah. And I'm like, "Well, what is it now?"

Like, una bata from CVS. No, I know what you're talking about because I've tried, I go, you naturally go to stuff that- Yeah ... you always buy or- Yeah ... wear or whatever, and there's just certain things that I've picked out, and I go to the dressing room to try it on. Yeah. And I just look at myself, and I'm like, "It just doesn't fit- Mm-hmm

the way it used to- No ... these kind of outfits or this kind- Yeah ... of dress. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, "This is just, it's not for me anymore." Yeah. I, um, my husband the other day was like, "Oh, Jasmin, look," and it was, um, you know how your phone sometimes, "Oh, this is what you were doing on this day five years ago," or something like that?

Yeah. It popped up on his phone. He goes, "Oh, honey, look," and it was a picture of me and, uh, and three girlfriends that I used to work with at a job from, you know, almost eight years ago, and it was, um, it was a birthday party that they invited me to. This was only eight years ago. Mm-hmm. I looked at that picture, and I was like, "Oh, my God, I look so young."

Like, my face, my neck, my arms, my tor- like my, like I could see the huesito on, like, you know, what do you call this part of the, the collar, your collarbone? Yeah. This little part here, the collarbone. You could see my collarbone. Now you ain't see no collarbone, you know? I know it's still in there. Um, and I, it made me feel a certain way.

I was just like, "Shit," you know? And that's why I'm glad we're doing this show because I'm sure there's a lot of women that feel this way, but maybe they don't say it out loud. Mm-hmm. Or maybe they just say it quietly to someone that they trust and they feel bad. But trust me, I struggle with it. Yeah. And I'm, I'm gonna pull myself together and find what works for me now.

I have... Like, I cleaned out my closet. That really helped me. Like, I, I really just was like, "I'm gonna let this go because this is a part of my life that I'm not 37 anymore. Why am I with these outfits of when I was 37 and 38 when I'm gonna be 50 years old?" It's time to invest in things that are gonna make me feel...

Not that I'm giving up. I wanna make that clear. I am not- No ... giving up, but I'm also s- embracing a new phase of my life. It's funny you say that 'cause I actually- Mm-hmm ... just did the same thing. Really? I cleaned out my closet and- Mm-hmm ... there's just stuff that I feel like don't work for me now. Okay. And I've gotten rid of it, and I'm trying New things Good for you Yeah.

Like, okay, let me try this dress. I've... Something that I really never worn- Mm-hmm ... a kind of dress like this. Yeah. Let me try it. I went to a wedding last year, um, November, I think it was, and I sent you the picture of that dress. Yeah. You look great. I've never worn a dress like that. Mm-hmm. It's, you know, lengthy.

I don't like long dresses. Okay. But... And out of my comfort zone as well. Mm-hmm. I was choosing between that one and another one, and I sent you the pictures, and, um, you picked that one. Mm-hmm. And I liked it. I liked the dress- You look gorgeous ... a lot, 'cause that's why I bought it. I was like, "Oh." But at the same time, I'm like, "I've never worn a dress like this."

Yeah. And anyways, I wore the dress, and somebody else saw the picture of me, and they were like, "Wow, you look really pretty. I've never seen you in a long dress." Mm-hmm. You know? And I'm like, "Yeah, I'm trying new things." Trying new things. Yeah. That's, uh... Thanks for sharing that because, you know, one thing that I've never been self-conscious about my entire life is my arms 'cause I've always worked out.

I've always lifted weights. I never felt like I had big arms, you know? I just... I would wear, like, tank tops and my fitted jeans. Even s- well, skinny jeans are not in style anymore, but when they were, I would wear my skinny jeans with high heels and a fitted tank top, and I felt like a million bucks. And now I look at, when I wear a tank top, I'm like, "Oh, my arms look a little big," you know?

And that's... Well, it is true. I'm not lying. They, they do, they are bigger. But now I'm like, but that was my go-to outfit, my tank top with my jeans and my little sneakers or my little sandals or my little high heels if I wanted to dress it up. And now I'm like, "Mm. I don't think so anymore," and that made me sad.

Aw. It did. It made me sad. So now I'm just kinda like, okay, well, maybe you can't wear the tank top, but you could wear, like, a, a cute T-shirt or something. I don't know. I'm just trying to still- Yeah ... figure that out. I gotcha. But I ain't fucking wearing a cardigan. That ain't fucking happening. When that shit happens, it's o- game over.

Just if you see anybody that's listening, you see Jasmine wearing a cardigan on social media, bitch is almost dying. Even if it's cashmere? Even if it's cashmere. N- no. Car- I can't put... Like, every time I see a cardigan, I'm just like, ♪ Thank you for being a friend ♪ Oh, my God. That's funny. ♪ Traveled down the road and back again ♪ So I guess what we're trying to say here is that we need to let go of what's, uh, considered age appropriate.

Yeah. You just need to find, uh, what's appropriate for you, which is what we were talking about. What you like. And what you like. Yeah, what you like. And what makes you feel confident. Yeah. You know? And comfortable. And comfortable. Yes. That's your thing. Com- comfort... Well, here's the thing. It's funny that you mention that because, um, the more uncomfortable I was, I knew I looked good because it was a little too tight or a little too tall.

You know, maybe a little too much cleavage. You know, it, it, like... And I felt, like, a little tight and a little uncomfortable, but bitch looked good in a picture. You know? And now I'm like, "Oh, man, I don't know. Maybe I should put that card again on it." Just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, but you know what I'm saying.

It's, it's just a, it's just a different time and a, a different phase is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Um, you know, one of the things that I'm happy to see now, especially when we go shopping, is that they are trying to put a little bit of more effort into clothing for older women. I don't know, have you guys noticed that or not really?

No. No? I did. I went to Macy's, the department store, and I noticed that there was a lot of more options for women in, like, maybe their 40s, 40s and 50s. Yeah. Um, and it wasn't, like, ugly. Like, it was n- it was nice. You know, like, modern and pretty and a little nice, and it was... It felt good to see that 'cause for a little while there, it was a lot of flower prints.

Yeah. A lot of pineapples, a lot of, like- I have to go- Just- ... check it out because sometimes I go out- ... ugly-ass shit ... yeah, and I'm like- What? What is happening? You know how, I just saw a video of- Yeah ... somebody on TikTok. Yeah. And she just says the same thing that I was thinking, like, just the quality of the clothes that they make today, it's just not the same.

No, it's not. And it's ugly. It's fast fashion though. Yeah. You know? And I'm like, "What is going on?" Yeah. Like, I just feel like the quality is not the same. It's- Well, I don't know about the quality, but I'm mostly... I can't vouch for that, but I did notice that the styles were looking a little bit ni- nicer.

Mm-hmm. But it makes sense because here's something that I found online. Consumers over the age of 50 hold 72% of the United States personal wealth and account for nearly half of the fashion global spending power. So women over 50 and up have a combined net worth of $19 trillion. And in the luxury, uh, department, now we're getting into, like, Chanel or Dior, um, 45% of their business are women over the age of 50 I believe that.

So, yeah. I'm not spending that money. So I'm gonna tell you, like, it makes sense for them to start putting a little bit of more effort into... And I think social media ha- has a play with this because- Yeah ... you see women that are 48, 49, 50, 52, 53, 60, 61, and they look incredible. Right. And I think that they've been, like, we've been, like, dismissing this whole genre of women and focusing mostly on 20s- Right

and 30s, but guess what? The women in their 40s and 50s and 60s, they're the ones that have the fucking money. Yeah. So you'd be surprised just, uh... And there's a lot of fashion houses online that can't afford to be in a brick-and-mortar, but online, like, they specialize in, in women in our age group. So we should definitely try and put those in the show notes.

Well, I was gonna talk about, like, that as well, 'cause I think you, when you were saying that percentage, I mean, my brain went more to, like, I don't think that there's a lot of women to... I mean, for me, I guess, I w- I don't spend a lot of money on fashion. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Like, I'm, I'm more, like, more budget-friendly.

You know what I mean? Like, I, I go for the budget, the comfort, and I'm not gonna... I don't just... Yeah. It's not my thing to... Uh, the only thing that I will spend money on is a good pair of jeans, but not, like, I'm, like, when it comes to fashion- Yeah ... yeah, I won't spend a lot of money. What's your favorite brand in jeans?

Do you have one? Levi's. Levi's. My favorite brand. Yeah, Levi's are great. Yeah. You know who else makes really good jeans? Madewell. They're actually Madewell. Yeah. Okay. They're good. No, they're really good. And then, um, speaking of money too- Mm-hmm ... funny enough, for the Met, for the Met Gala- Yeah ... did you guys see the video of, what's her name?

Simone Biles? I did. How she was talking about... Dang. Yeah. You have to play it. And, um- No, you have to listen. It's in- Yeah. She's- Play it for Monica ... she's, uh- Play it for our listeners ... ranting about- Simone Biles. Yeah ... the amount of money that she spent just to get ready, her hair and makeup. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's a problem.

Like, if you're a real celebrity, it's a fortune. But it's nothing new. No. No, no, no, but listen- That's my, like- No, no, no ... all this shit happens ... we should have a discussion. I just never knew how much... I'm sorry. It's nothing new, but I just never knew- I didn't, I didn't know- ... exactly how much they spent on something like that

yeah, I didn't know it was like that. No, I didn't. Okay, chat. We need to have a discussion. If you're a celebrity, an athlete, influencer, these questions are for you. If not, you can keep scrolling or you can listen. Doesn't really matter. But I just need to know if this is normal, okay? Because I know going outside is expensive as fuck these days.

But, like, is it this expensive, okay? So I just recently had a red carpet event with the stylist fee, hair and makeup team My grand total. Any guesses? I'll wait. Probably higher than what you're thinking. Keep going Yeah, $22,000. Actually 23, but is... I just wanna know, what is that for this event? I just wanna know.

I- Yeah ... honestly, Monica, I never would have thought that one event would be $22,000. I thought it was more. Hair and makeup. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I never would have imagined to be that much. So you know, you know a little bit about fashion then. Really. Yeah, no. That much? Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've seen enough where... But the thing is she knew that.

She knew that before she set it up. Like, she knew what she was getting herself into. Yeah. And she did it, and she did the red carpet. Now she wants to complain about it. Yeah. Well, I don't know if she was complaining. I think maybe she was just like, maybe it's gone up. M- that's what I was gonna say. Um, maybe- Maybe it's gone up

it used to be 15,000- Yeah ... and now she's paying 22- 23 ... or 23. 'Cause she sounded shook. Mm-hmm. She sounded shook. Because I'm gonna tell you something, um, everything's gone up. Everything has gone up. Yeah. So this, it's not a big surprise. Right. But I, I really love to do my hair. Like, that's, that's something that I like.

I, I like my hair to, to look nice. So I haven't had professional highlights done in a while. So the lady who cuts my hair and styles my hair, I asked her how much she would charge me to do, um, full highlights, and so she gave me a quote. Listen, Monica. I, when she told me, I was like, "Oh, okay. Um, let me think about it.

I'll let you know." $695. I was shocked that it was $700 to do my, my highlights, and I chose not, not to do it, um, because I used to be able to pay 300, you know, and it's more than double. So imagine between... And, and this is just normal, we're normal people. She's not paying $695 for her hair. She's paying 10,000.

She's paying more. Maybe not 10,000- Yeah ... but 8,000. It's, it's really, it's outrageous if you think about it. Yeah. What, what, how expensive it's, it's gotten to get your hair done, your nails done, a nice outfit, all these things. So, um, yeah, you brought up a good point. The cost is, is everything. Yeah. So that's why it's good to talk about where...

What, what type of jeans do you wear that make you feel... Levi's. Okay, Levi's is a f- you know, that's, that's a brand that everybody knows and, and they're good quality. You know? You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I think it's important to do that. Like you said, Amazon offers those services too. These are all these type of things that you can use.

Yeah. Well, I don't know about the quality. That I don't know. Yeah. It's, uh, it is true that a lot of the these clothes nowadays, the quality sucks. So- Yeah. Yeah. You'll, you'll get a pair of something and after... And I've seen a lot of people complain about that. Like, after one or two washes, it's p- peeling or pilling.

Mm-hmm. Right. Is that a word? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've never, nobody believes me, but I have never in my life ordered from Shein. Is that how you- Oh, me neither ... Shein, Shein I have. I tried that once. I've never ordered. Yeah. But I know it's a- Never again ... I know people order from them a lot because- Mm-hmm ... they're cheap.

Yeah. Cheap, cheap, you know, more affordable. Um, but I, me personally, me, I have a big problem with fast, like uber fast fashion because I know... Like, I'm changing the subject, so I'm sorry, but I know what that does to the Earth- Mm ... what that does to the environment. So I try now, as an older woman, to invest in quality pieces that- Right

will last me for years, that I can mix-match and I know are made ethically. 'Cause this fast fashion, I mean, I could have you here, we, that could be, like, a whole completely different show, but it's detrimental to, to Mother Nature, so- And to you. And, and to you. Because- Yeah ... I don't know if you know that they are- Right

under- Yep. They- They have a lawsuit. No. They do. Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause their clothes- What do you mean? ... is contaminated with chemicals. Chemicals. I didn't know this. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like what? What is this? Texas is suing them for that. The state of Texas? Yeah, 'cause- Get out of town. Yeah, they have PFAS and- I've never heard of that

some phthalates- Mm-hmm ... and all this stuff in their clothing. In Shein? Yeah. Okay. And, but they're not the only one. Right. Lululemon also. Re- They- Really? Oh, I didn't know Lululemon. 'Cause Lululemon's expensive. Yeah. I know. And Lululemon, try, good luck trying to f- as a, if you go to Lululemon and you're a size 10, 12- Right

good luck. They're taking shortcuts. 'Cause they don't, they don't want you to shop in their store. Someone that was, um- Not on me ... getting an MRI done and they were told, "Don't wear Lululemon" because it has metals and it distorts the- The picture. Interesting. Yeah. You have left me flabbergasted. Oh, girl. I didn't know that.

Oh, no. I- What about Athleta, 'cause I love them. I, that I, I haven't heard anything about them yet, but a lot of our athleisure wear- ... a lot. Wow. Yeah. Like Alo? 'Cause Alo's expensive. Mm. A lot of... You would... I'm sure people are out there doing their- Well- ... research ... Lululemon is enough to be surprised. Yeah. I'm surprised by it, so.

Yeah. I'm very surprised. Yeah. Shein doesn't surprise me, but I didn't know that, what you just told me. Mm. I had no idea. Yeah, so I've always been very, like, with uber fast fashion, because Zara is fast fashion, too. Yeah. It, it is. Let's not lie here, you know? But I think Shein is in a, in a completely different level, so I just ethically, I've always had a problem even thinking about ordering from them.

Well- But some people don't give a shit ... with that all going on, I doubt- Yeah ... there are m- that many people are ordering from them anymore. People still order from them? Yeah. No, people, people don't care, man. Yeah. I have ordered from them, but like- I see that all, people all over TikTok- Yeah ... ordering from them.

Yeah. I'm like, "Oh my God." But I, it, that was, like, years ago that I have. When they first- Yeah ... when I first heard about them, I ordered something from them. Mm-hmm. And I didn't... Not only did I not like the material- Yeah ... like how it felt, I just- Yeah ... it had this smell. Smell. Mm. Like a chemical smell. Yeah. And I just donated it to Goodwill.

Mm-hmm. Fuck them. Never again. I got a couple of dresses from them, but other stuff that I, you know, I returned. Yeah. But again, it's just something that doesn't suit me anymore, those styles, I guess. Yeah. They just, yeah. And then, you know- Mm-hmm ... you get them and they don't fit right, and yeah. Yeah. So, it, yeah, it was like a, yeah, trial.

I tried it, but- Yeah ... it's not something I order from all the time. Okay. So let's play a game. All right. All right. And you tell me, "Yes, I'll wear it. No, I won't." Yes, let's do it. All right- Have fun ... ladies. All right. I think we've covered this in the episode. Yes. I think I already know the answer. All right.

Crop tops. Hell no. Not for me. Crop tops are adorable for, in my... Don't get offended y'all if you're, like, don't get offended. Crop tops are, I think, definitely for younger girls. That's my opinion. Okay. So yes on the younger girls, but if you're, like, in your 40s and 50s, I think it's time to... I know I'm being judgy, but- What about, they have the, they have the longer crop tops

I mean, if you have the body for it. Yeah, if you got the body for it. I, I, for me, okay, let me just keep it for me. No. Okay. I wouldn't wear it. Yeah, I mean- No ... for me, yeah, it, I wouldn't wear it. Yeah, yeah. I can't, I can't pull that off anymore. No. We're not as young as we used to be. I c- I can, I can definitely.

Even if I had the body, I wouldn't wear it. Yeah. I wouldn't. Leather pants. Hell no. Hell no. In Florida? Hell no. Oh, my God. No. That's, I'm, I'm hot- Jesus, take the wheel ... just thinking about it. I'm like, oh my God,

I'm already hot. Sheer pieces. Okay. I would- I would wear a sheer piece. Okay. Yeah. Maybe a, a sheer top. A sheer top? Yes. Yeah. No sheer pants? Hell no. I, no, not hell. No, no. I think, okay, this is a little scandalous, but if I had the body for it and I was going to, it's like a nice Miami night on a Saturday, going to lounge, I think I would wear, like, those bras that have, like, a little sequence.

Oh, okay. And that I, you know- Yeah ... they cover, you know. And then the sequence shirt on top. And then the sheer over it. The sheer, yeah. I think I would wear something like that. Okay. Yeah, I think so. Oh my God, do you know what I just thought of when you said that? What? What? Maid in Manhattan. Maid in Manhattan.

Oh, yeah. The movie with J.Lo. Yeah. That she's the maid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the, the lady, she's wearing, like, the see-through outfit, see-through shirt with the bras- Okay ... and, and she tells her that you're too old for that or some shit like that. Oh my God. I don't remember that. I don't even remember the movie.

Oh, my God. I'm gonna, I'm gonna watch that movie so I can remember that. I mean, that's maybe just a fantasy in my head- Yeah ... 'cause I've never worn anything like that, but maybe I would be like, damn, it'd be kind of cool, like, at least once in my life to wear that. All right, we've covered- But who says you can't, though?

Yeah, it's true. Once in your life, one night. My, my muffin top. Why not? Fuck it. I think we covered this one, too. Uh, Crocs. No. Call the fashion police at home. Okay. Call the fashion police. I'd wear them. I don't own a pair, but- No ... I, I, I probably would wear them to, like, Publix or Walmart or something. Oh, God.

Uh, cowboy boots. I would wear those if I had the right outfit. Yeah. No. I, I like them on other people. Okay. Not on me. I'd wear them. Well, that was fun. Yes. Thanks for answering those questions. Maybe one day you will see me in a sequence top. So is fashion over at 50? Not even close. If anything, it's just getting good.

The truth is, the industry spent decades telling us we had a shelf life, that style had a cutoff date, that at some point we were supposed to quietly step aside and let someone younger have the spotlight. Turns out we own the spotlight. We always did. They are just finally catching up. So this week, do one thing for me.

Open your closet, find the piece you have been saving for someday, and wear it. The dress, the heels, the jacket, the bold red lipstick. Whatever it is, someday is today. Take a page out of Andy Sacks' book, pick up the pieces that made you, take the scissors to them if you want, and wear them on your terms.

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