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On this episode of Red Lips Real Talk, the hosts take a fun look at some of the world’s strangest laws and unexpected rules, from unusual travel restrictions to quirky laws in Florida. They discuss why knowing the local rules can save travelers from an awkward or costly surprise.

The conversation then turns to AI and the challenges that come with rapidly evolving technology, including deepfakes, misinformation, voice and image cloning, and the need for new laws and protections. The episode wraps up with a humorous take on one rule everyone can agree on: orderly deplaning!

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Oye, mi gente, you're listening to the Red Lips Real Talk podcast, where we talk about life, love, and everything in between. You already know, it's time to get real. Dale.

Some laws make perfect sense, and then there are the ones that make you wonder, "Who did that for this to become a law?" Today, we're talking about some of the weirdest laws from around the world, and right here in Florida too. Some are funny, some are surprisingly practical, and a few might leave you wondering how they're even real.

But as strange as those laws are, they're nothing compared to the questions we're starting to ask because of AI. Technology is moving so fast that it's creating situations lawmakers never imagined. So today, we're asking two questions: Which laws are the weirdest, and what new laws might we need before AI gets too far ahead of us?

Welcome to Red Lips Real Talk. If you enjoy the conversation, be sure to follow the show, leave us a review, and share this episode with someone who loves a good discussion. Now let's get into it. Yeah. Well, I went down a little rabbit hole too. I was like, I saw something on, uh, social media, and they mentioned that it was a law in their country, and I was just like, "Hmm, that's odd."

And then I went and found a Reddit- Right ... Reddit group. Yeah. And there was a li- little list there, a long list, I would say, of just some strange things. I know they exist. I've seen them before. It's just, it's so weird. And it turns out some are funny, some are actually, you know, they make sense. But yeah, like you said, y- you begin to question like why did that even have to become a law?

Right. Like, where's that story? Where's the backstory to that? Yeah. Which I wasn't really able to find on some of them, but it's, it's pretty weird. Well, let's get into these laws, Monica. So the first one we have is Singapore. In Singapore, did you know that selling or importing chewing gum is basically banned?

Did you know that? No, I didn't. So you can't take chewing gum with you if you ever visit Singapore. Remember that. That's interesting. No chewing gum. No chewing gum. Well, they created that because people keep sticking gum everywhere, and I know from living in New York what that looks like- Yeah ... and it's gross.

Ew. So I could see, you know, why they did it, and I guess that's basically why that country is known as, like, one of the cleanest- Is it? ... in the world. Yeah. Have you been there? No. No. Never. I haven't been there myself, but it's very clean. Very clean. No, no- No s- ... you won't have a problem with bubble gum in- ... on your shoe or under your shoe.

Or on the walls. Or on the walls. That's some gro- Like, when, in New York, taking the train and you gotta, if you go to sit down, you gotta look because there's gum. There's gum everywhere. Yeah. It, it was gross. Well, here's another one that I saw. In Longyearbyen, Norway, people joke that it's illegal to die there, and it kinda is.

W- what? Yeah. Because it's so cold, the ground stays frozen year-round. Bodies don't decompose properly in the permafrost. So if someone becomes very elderly or terminally ill, they're usually transported to the mainland, Norway, before they pass away. So what happens if a young person has a heart attack and they die?

Who gets in trouble for that? I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of accidents, but I mean, you can die there, right? I mean, 'cause accidents happen. So I looked into it, and it says that you die there, but they're going to... They're still gonna transport you to the mainland because you can't be...

There's no new burials being done in that area anymore. So if you're gonna be buried or cremated, they will transport you over to the mainland Norway. So if you ha- Well, no one can get in trouble. Who's gonna get in trouble if you die? I guess you don't really get in trouble per se, but they're not gonna let you get buried there.

So you're gonna get, you're gonna get the boot regardless. So make that the law. No burial sites or- Right ... no one can be buried- ... in this part of the country. Exactly. Because telling me that I can't die there is like, wait a minute. Mm-hmm. That's literally not in my control. It isn't. It isn't. And who's gonna get in trouble if I do?

Exactly, because, you know, things happen. If you're expecting a baby, they ask you to leave, like, six weeks prior to your due date. Why? 'Cause things happen. They don't want anything happen to y- you there. They, they want you to go to the mainland, to Norway, in case... I wonder how far the mainland is, 'cause it's not like you're saying- That's a good question

you know- Right ... from here to Miami, 30, 45 minutes. I don't know how far the mainland is. Okay. But it- Ah ... it's kinda like, "Go, go over there and have your baby." Wow. And if you're ill, go over there. Go over there and die. Yeah. Go over there and pass away. Wow. That's just... Don't live there. Yeah. Don't move there.

Don't live there. You can't even die in Longyearbyen. I know, um, hav- you know, having to get to know laws before you go to different countries is- Is kind of important. Super important. Right. And, um, they say that in Italy, like in Venice, pigeon feeding is illegal because they've become such a problem, and they damage historic buildings.

So you, you're not allowed to feed the pigeons there. Have you been... Haven't you been to Venice? Yes. I didn't feed any pigeons. Oh, okay. No. Did you see anybody feeding pigeons? I, honestly, no, I didn't see that. Are there a lot of pigeons there? I haven't been. Um, I mean, I saw pigeons, but it wasn't- A problem

like, a nuisance. Yeah. Okay. But in Milan, they were, like, everywhere. Really? Like, all just everywhere, and people were f- feeding the pigeons. Feeding them. Oh. Like, nothing, crackers, everything. So Milan, you can do it, but not- Well, I don't know if it's legal because I think, I think it's, you know, frowned upon, or you can get fined if you get caught.

But I mean, there's some people doing it. Yeah. It's, I mean, I guess they don't have, you- they probably don't have police everywhere like, "Oh my God, you know, you- Right ... don't feed the pigeons," you know? Don't feed the pigeons. But if you're standing there and there's, like, millions of pigeons around you and you have- feeding them, you know.

You're looking like the lady from Home Alone. Home A- Home Alone. Then, then that's a problem. You're probably gonna get- And you're walking around with pigeons all over you. Exactly. I am the pigeon lady. Oh my God, no. But there was a lot, and they just, they're flying everywhere, and they're pretty, they're, they're pretty, like- But it's like the pigeons know.

Yeah. Because, no, because you said in Venice you didn't see that many pigeons where it was a problem. They're all in Milan. Yeah. That's where they feed me. That's where I'm going. They know where to go. And they, they're, they're aggressive, too, over there. Really? Yeah. You... I had to be, like, ducking and- Yeah ... so they know- It was a problem

people feed them. Yeah. Oh, that is a problem. Maybe they need to pa- pass that also in Milan. Or, or enforce it, right? Yeah, enforce it in Milan. That would be nice. Here's another one if you're visiting places like Acropolis in Greece: don't wear high heels. Huh. Yeah. Well, is it, like, a cobblestone area? Yeah.

The heels can damage thousands of years of old stone, so. It's probably uncomfortable to walk like that anyway. Absolutely. You, yeah, you can't... You'll- ... mess up your ankle. Don- don't do it. Don't wear heels over there. I, I, I mean, I don't like heels in general, but I don't think I would... Who, who would wear heels- Well- Well-

people would wear heels ... there's a law. Yeah. People would wear heels, and if there's- Yeah ... an a law for it. I know that there's a law in, um, in some places in Italy where you're not a- you're not allowed to wear flip-flops. I, I can understand that. I mean, we have here in Miami Beach, you can't go into some restaurants with a- with flip-flops on.

I mean, it's not a law, but they, they don't want you wearing flip-flops in some places. Well, for them, it's because of the w- the way the streets are. Mm-hmm. You can get hurt. Oh, okay. It's not safe- Yeah ... for you to wear your little flip-flops. Makes sense. So they don't allow you to wear them. Mm-hmm. I know also in the Caribbean and African nations, you shouldn't be wearing camouflage They only want, like, it's a military pattern.

It's reserved strictly for them, so you shouldn't walk around in camouflage. That's good to know- Yeah ... 'cause you don't wanna pack that if you're gonna visit. Uh, exactly. 'Cause that would be... That would suck if you're, like, in camouflage and be like, "Hey, you." Yeah. Take it off. Yeah. Well- And that's very important to know.

Yeah. Yeah, before you go there. Have you, have you ever... I mean, I know you've traveled to some places. Do you, have you ever, like, researched the laws wh- before you've gone? Not, not really. And I know I- you should. Like, I know- I've researched laws regarding, um, identification. Okay. Yeah, well, you know, things like that.

Like, you know, having to require- But not as far as clothing. Well, not laws, but I do, um, I do research, like, what am I allow- like, what should I wear- Yeah ... when I go to these places, 'cause I know in, in Europe, there's a lot of places where you cannot wear sleeveless or shorts. Right. Like, if you're gonna go into, um, cathedrals and churches and stuff.

Right, or temples or- They want you covered up. Yeah. That, that, I mean- Respect for the... Yeah. Yeah. I remember we were in, in Milan, and we were in the tour, in the line, you know, trying to get in, and there was a girl in front of us in the line, and she was trying to model. I, I mean, she had her friend or whoever taking pictures of her, and she took off her sweater, her shirt, whatever, and she's, like, doing all these modeling poses, and she's in this skimpy dress.

Wow. And I was like, "Oh my God, look at this," and she's holding up the line, right? Home girl got kicked out. They were like, "Uh, nope." She... And you, you gotta pay to get in. Yeah. So she paid to get in, and they were like, "Nope. You need to leave." You have to go. And they escorted her out. Wow. They didn't even, like...

They didn't even warn her. It wasn't like, "No, ma'am," you know, "Put your sweater back on." No, it was like, "Nope, you go out." I was like, "Aye." But that's why, yeah, tho- stuff like that, like, yeah, I look it up, like, okay, what am I allowed to wear or not wear? Hmm. 'Cause you, you never know You don't Like, for instance, well, if you're going to a country that is known for a specific religion, right?

Like, if you go to a Muslim country- Yeah ... I suggest you look up the law. Yeah. Because what is it? In the, in Dubai or, like, the EU or e- EAU or whatever they call that, in Muslim countries, you, there's certain things that you're not allowed to wear. Exactly. And where here, you know, a tank top and shorts in the summer is normal, and I'm not talking booty shorts.

I'm talking, like, just regular short. Yeah. In some place like that, it's like no, you can't wear that. And if you, if you do wear that, they could very easily just arrest you. Imagine. If they're not, you know, nice and- Yeah ... give you a warning. They could just take your sh- take your ass and be like, "Oh, go to jail."

Yep. You're wearing shorts. You're going to jail, and you don't wanna be in jail in those places. Uh-uh. That's scary. Well, here in Thailand, it's about not having to wear... You have to wear a shirt if you're driving anything. A car- Like- ... a motorcycle. What? I can't be shirtless in my own car? No, you cannot be shirtless.

You need to wear a shirt. No, no shirtless driving on vacation over there. Isn't it hot over there? Yeah. What about if you're coming from the beach or go- I mean- ... or going to the beach, right? ... men usually, you know, like- Yeah ... that's the first thing they do when they're hot. Take off their shirt. They, like, they take off their shirt, but they can't.

You can't. Not in Thailand. That's good to know, 'cause that's one of the places I would like to visit, and I'll remember to tell my husband, "Keep shirt on." Keep your shirt on. Yeah. Don't take your shirt off. I wonder, I guess it's distracting to other drivers or something? Yeah, I mean, distracting, yeah, it can be distracting.

Or- If you got a six-pack and your muscles- Yeah. It could be very- Yeah. If you're very muscular and you got a nice tan and... It can be distracting. Thailand also- Vapes are not allowed. Really? Yeah. So you know how... I know so a lot of people that vape, and they take it everywhere, vacation, and you always hear on the plane, like- Right

you're not allowed to do that on a plane. But, um, in Thailand, they, I think it was in 2014, and there's n- they made it a law that you can't vape, banned, and there's no exemption- So nobody, nobody over there smokes? Well, they can't do e-cigarettes. That's interesting. E-cigarettes, e-liquids, heated tobacco, that, that is not allowed.

Enforcement escalated sharply after a 2025 nationwide crackdown. 690 people are arrested in 666 vape cases in a single week, and tourists typically face on-the-spot fines of 5,000 to 30,000 bahts. Wow. Plus confiscation, with detention and formal arrests increasingly common. That's- Yeah, so if you're, like, addicted to your vape, don't go to Thailand- Yeah

because it's not like you can step out and have a quick smoke. You're gonna get fined. Yeah. I know a lot of people that vape too. Yeah. Well, but I mean, if you can smoke cigarettes, then they'll have to resort to that. I guess. 'Cause it's the nicotine, right? Yeah. You're, you're, you're doing it... Well, if that's what you're smoking.

Right. Exactly. Now, this one's actually really important. Some medications that are perfectly normal here, like cold medicine, certain inhalers, medicines containing codeine or stimulants, can be illegal to bring into Japan, even with a prescription, so it's something travelers really need to research before flying.

Yeah, for sure, because if you're traveling, we all- Take our medication ... medications with us- Yeah ... so that's definitely important to look into, 'cause nobody goes to Japan for a weekend. No. You're going there for long, you know, like a- Shit, it takes you, like, a week to get there. Exactly. That's what it feels like.

So and then you can't go without your medication. You definitely need to do your research and make sure you have the permission or some, you know, get your permission to take it. I wonder if it's, like, particular ingredients in the medication that's not allowed. It could be. That would be something to look into.

You said you want, you said you wanted to go to Japan once. I do. It's on your list, so But I'm not taking medications. I don't need, I don't need that. Yeah. I'm sure they have pharmacies over there. Yeah, they do. True, true. Going back to Dubai, 'cause I know you had mentioned it before, I think, I mean, I think a lot of people talk about this.

I mean, a lot of pe- there's a lot of people that know about the, that strict public decency laws that they have. So public kissing, illegal. Huh. Making out, definitely illegal. Hugging can become an issue depending on the situation, and holding hands, mm, if you're married, you can hold hands discreetly, but if you're unmarried, you should be cautious.

Now, they... I don't think they have police, like policing you, you know what I mean? But if some pe- the locals, if they feel offended by the, the affection that's going on, they can basically let the police know, "Hey, they're not being respectful." I guess they don't like PDA over there, huh? No. That's not cool.

Yeah, I mean, if you go there on your honeymoon- Right ... I mean, you're gonna be all over each other. You can't. Didn't they have a scene of that in, um, Sex and the City? Wasn't there a Dubai scene? Yeah, where she got, she got in trouble. She got in trouble. Yeah, but that was Samantha, and Samantha's known for, like, hoeing, so- Yeah

I could see how she... No, I know, but they, they, they, you know, it's a thing, right? If they put it in the show, then- Yeah ... it's something that can happen. I think it's... That, that might be one of the countries, too, where you can't, um... You know how here when we say hello, you give a kiss on the cheek. Yeah. Hello. A man cannot...

Like, you can't do that, and you can't give a woman... A man can't give a woman a kiss on the cheek, or he can't even extend his hand to shake her hand. Over there? I believe it's over there. Well, it makes sense that they have, you know, all this, you know, you can't do public kissing. You can't be hugging out there.

Yeah. So yeah, you can't greet, you can't greet people like that. It's gotta be... It can, you know, that's- Some form of kissing. I mean, it's not on the lips I know, they do, like- ... French people, they do, you know- Mm ... mwah, mwah. Yeah. Italians do it too. It's, uh, you know, both cheeks. Not- Can't do that over there. Not in Dubai.

Not in Dubai. Let's bring it home, though, because we have some interesting laws here in Florida too. Yes. I remember, uh, telling you, 'cause I- I'm like, "Oh, my God, I heard this thing about it being, it's illegal to have sex with a porcupine in Florida," right? I read that- When you told me that- ... I had to look it up.

And I'm, and I... Me too. I was like, "Wait, what?" Why is that a law? Like, why would that... But it's not just, it's not naming porcupine in general. It's, it's, like, animals. Right. But again- Well, right ... why- I looked it up- ... why is that a law? ... 'cause I'm like, where, where did we end up with the porcupines? Like, somewhere along the line-

the porcupine got put into that, right? Like, somebody made it up. Yeah. Like, somebody specifically- It started somewhere ... went for those porcupine. But it's any animal. I mean, it's crazy that it's a law, but just, you know, because oh, my God. I mean- That's, like, some shit you would see in a movie. Yeah. Not something that you would think happens- Well-

that they have to pass a law for that. That just blows my mind. I'm sorry. I was like, "Wait, what?" The porcupine is the face of that statute. Yeah. Somehow, some way, it became, it became the face of that one. But it's any animal. Oh, my goodness. How do you not know that's not wrong? But how would... You know what I mean?

Like, there's a law for that. Yeah. There's a lot of people, too, that... Okay, so then the balloon releasing, right? I've seen people releasing balloons- I've seen people do that ... a lot and, you know. That's actually illegal. Yeah. Yeah. I knew that. I, I, I, w- I- And I'm, I'm- I can, hon- honestly, I didn't know that one.

I'm a fan of that- Okay ... because after seeing, you see a lot of these, um, especially, like, in the water, in the wildlife- Yeah ... dying because of that stuff. Right. What, uh, where whatever goes up must come down, right? Right. So I guess it ends up in, um, places where it shouldn't be- Right ... or animals get affected by it.

So that one, I, it's weird- Yeah ... but I understand it. I didn't know. I didn't know that that was illegal. Yeah. But here's another one that I didn't know that was illegal. If you're riding a bicycle, you cannot grab onto a moving car to get pulled along. And I'm, and I'm, I... And growing up, I've seen this a lot.

Like- That happened to me ... growing up in New York or in, you know, and being here. So yeah. It happened to me. What? Somebody did it to you? It happened to me, I swear to you. Yes. I was f- I was freaking out because the light turned green and I took off, right? And I- I look in my mirror and there's this bicycle guy, a bicycler, holding onto the back of my truck, the, uh, you know, the bed part in the back.

He's holding on, and I was freaking out. I was like, "Oh my God." And I had to make a right in a, in a few blocks. I was g- I had to make a right, and I'm like, "How am I suppo- He was on your right? Yeah, he was on my right side. Mm. I'm like, "How am I supposed to turn right? And I'm gonna turn into him, and I can't slam on my brakes because there's people behind me."

You know- Yeah ... I was just freaking out. So I slowed down my... You know, like, I slowed down. I drove really slow because I noticed he was there, and then I turned my signals on to, like, let him know that I was gonna turn right and hope... It took him a l- a little while to see that I had my turning signals on.

And then finally, like I slowed down a lot because I had to turn, and he finally got the point. He let go, and he, you know, he starts to ride. He rode past me, and he waved at me like, "Thanks." Like, "Thanks." Thanks for the ride. Yeah, thanks for the ride. And I'm in my truck, and I'm freak- I was freaking out. I was freaking out.

So if I was to get pulled over You get in trouble for that? I guess I would be- I would be like, I... It's not like I asked him, "Hey, yeah- Yeah ... let me give you a ride." You know, I didn't- You didn't even know he was there. No, he just grabbed onto my truck because he was tired or whatever. So who gets fined, him or, him or me?

It would be him, I would assume, because- It, it better. Yeah. Especially if it's without permission. Right. It totally, it totally was. No one gave you permission- He didn't, he didn't even- ... to hitch a ride. Okay. He didn't even get that far. He held onto the wrong car because I had to turn, you know, uh, and, you know, like, it was, like, maybe, I don't know, two blocks.

It wasn't even that far. I've seen skateboarders do that. That's crazy. A lot. It's dangerous. I- Yeah, it's scary- Yeah ... to see. That's definitely dangerous. Oh my God, that just brought back a memory. That was scary. Well, I, I feel like that's one of those things most people know not to do. Like, you, you know you're not supposed to do it, but you do it anyway.

Right. That's one of those things. Yeah, it is. Yeah, definitely. It's not safe. Like, you're... Yeah, no. Okay, here's another one we should expose, right? And you would think being naked in Florida is automatically illegal. It makes sense, right? Of course. Okay. I mean, I, I would think being naked anywhere- Is illegal.

Mm-hmm. Right. But that's actually not what the law says exactly. Hmm. Florida statute specifically makes it illegal to expose your sexual organs or be naked in public in a vulgar or indecent manner. There are actually exceptions. For example, breastfeeding is specifically protected under the law, and being naked in places that are legally designed for that purpose, like certain authorized nude beaches or resorts.

And I remember you telling me that, um, there was a resort by, like, it's close to where you were staying- Ze- ... that it was- Zephyrhills. Zephyrhills- ... Florida has a resort. All naked people. Yes. Yeah. Was it clothing optional or just clothing not allowed? They... I mean, I guess you could wear clothing, but it was really...

It's, it's just a place for, for nude. Yeah, for- Oh ... yeah, for the nude. So you would be, you would be out of place if you were wearing clothing. And I, and I know you mentioned there's a beach here in Florida. Yes, there is a beach that's known for nudity, which is Haulover Beach. I did not know that. Yes. That I did not know.

Yes, yes, yes. Speaking of nudity, okay, I saw a clip about a restaurant in Florida that is hosting, once a month, nude dining. Mm-hmm. I saw that clip on the news. That's on the news. Yes, it's in Hollywood, and it's called Class So- Soiree. Soiree? Class or Race Steakhouse. It's in Hollywood, and they... Yes. Yes. They host once a month nude dining.

So- There's a market for it. Apparently. But wait, but so the law says It's illegal to expose your sexual organs or be naked in a public, in public in a vulgar or indecent manner. Right. That to me is indecent. What, what's ind- Isn't, isn't that called indecent exposure? Like, just being naked- Exactly ... isn't that called indecent exposure?

Now- I don't want to eat my dinner and see all these naked people around me. While I'm eating dinner?

Who, who signs up for that? And, and they said that they had, what was it? 20 something people? They're expecting about 20 people for their next event so far. I'm not sure what the limit is for their events, but yeah. And it's not only for couples. So, like, men can go alone, a woman can go alone. Oh. Yeah. And, and couples, so.

Creepy. Yeah, I feel, I feel so. I feel- Stalkers looking for your next victim. Exactly. What? Yeah. I feel like it is because somebody will just go just to watch. But I know. Like, you're eating, and you're eating your steak- Mm-hmm ... and potatoes, and then someone walks by, you know, body hair moves. Ew, Monica. Okay. I don't even wanna think about that.

Ew. What? What are people thinking? Like, how is that- Wait, I need to pull up this article because are the staff nude as well? And the chef? No, that can't be legal. That can't be legal. There's no way that they're letting you cook in the kitchen without clothes on. They better not. Because what was it that, that, that guy that was, uh, making his...

He had his own business, and he was... I don't know what, where it was, but he was making his donuts or whatever without a shirt on. Uh-huh. Okay. And that was his thing. Okay. You know, he was, like, on TikTok and he's like, "Yeah, I'm making my donuts," and he's all shirtless, and ooh, everyone's like, "Wow." Th- but there's a lot of people who are like, "Ew, that's disgusting."

And then, yeah, he got the health department called on him. Okay, I'm looking at the article. I'm looking... I pulled up the article, and yes, you're right. Staff members work with clothes on, except the hostess. So homegirl's just standing there with her menu. "Welcome in." Yes. Yep. She's the hostess with the mostess.

The hostess with the mostest. That's a good one. That is

I'm sorry, but- I don't know ... but that- And, and, and the tickets are not, like, you know, you know. How much are they? So for the men, the tickets are $250. Women is 150, and if you go as a couple, it's 300. So is... Hmm. I wonder why it's more expensive for the men. It... I think it always is. I think for men, men always pay the higher price.

Even, I think, going to clubs and stuff like that, they always pay more for some reason. That is such a strange thing. Maybe to encourage them to come with a woman. To propose. Like- Yeah ... just come dine- ... in, in the restaurant naked. That's so weird. Like, I don't know if you ever heard of that, that... It was on, I think WSVN.

It was a dining experience in the dark. They have blindfolded ones. Right. Right. That's the one you're talking about? Yeah. It's blindfolded. Yeah. That's weird. Right? Yeah, because- But- ... if you're... How do you eat blindfolded? You gotta feel your way around. That sounds very messy- Yeah ... 'cause that'd be tr- Yeah. I don't know.

I'll miss my- I miss my- ... mouth. Exactly. Me too. But just to sit around in a restaurant with people naked, that's just odd. Like, who said, "This is, this is... There's a mar-," well, there's a market for it. There's a market for it- There- ... 'cause they got 20 reservations. There is. People are paying to go. I would, I would go.

I would f- I would sit there in... outside in my car and see who the fuck is sh- who is showing up to this, and how are they showing up. Do you think- Are they- Yeah. I mean, they gotta- ... coming dressed or- Exactly. Do they get undressed when they get there? Right. That's a good question. How does that work? Are they coming in- Are they wearing trench coats?

Like- Are they coming out naked and going in? That's a really good question because- Well, the, the lady- Then you don't need to buy tickets because- The- ... you could just stand outside and watch them go in. Right? I'll just see all the naked people from here. But the lady on the, on the news me- she's like, "Well, that's great 'cause then you don't gotta worry about, um, if it's a first date, you don't gotta worry about picking out an outfit," because you, you're not wearing any clothes.

You're not wearing one. But how do they go? Do they go dressed and then get undressed, or is this like a- Maybe they're wearing, like- ... show up in a robe and- Trench. Yeah, like robes. I guess. Oh my God. But then you're driving naked. Yeah. And if you get pulled over and you're... I don't know. So, so being naked is apparently not-

not that illegal in Florida, unless it's a- No ... vulgar manner. I guess- Huh ... we Floridians encourage it. That's funny. Oh my goodness. Yeah. That, that was really... Yeah, that was pretty interesting to watch, to, to see that in the news. And, and they're promoting it in the news. Right. So now they've, they've promoted it.

Yeah. Saying it, it'll be a interesting experience, like encouraging people to sign up. Yeah. I'm sure they run into problems because if it's out there... Well, again, we don't know how they're walking in. And I wonder if there's a- like, people that watch that are just, like, standing around waiting just to watch.

I'm sure there is Like, that's my thought. Like, I, I, I would go to see who shows up. Right. Just 'cause, uh- I mean, this is Hollywood. Hollywood, Florida, right. It's my first time even hearing this concept, so I'm intrigued on seeing how people show up to this dinner. Yeah. So people-watching would be kind of fun for that.

But I wonder how many other people just, like, decided to go on that day just to be like, "Who's here?" And, "Let me check you out." I wonder if they'll- To- ... be inside, you mean, or just to walk- No, just like outside ... from a distance. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, standing outside the restaurant and be like, "Who's walking..."

And if the hostess is naked, I wonder if the, the glass is tinted or the, the doors are tinted. I don't know. I might- Could you imagine you walking- Have to drive by one day ... by a restaurant and you see that shit- ... and you're like, "Pero no, no nadie tiene ropa adentro." Well, listen. It'd be weird. If I'm not going to the event, all right, and I just go there on a regular night to have dinner, like, I'm gonna be questioning where I'm sitting.

Right. Because some naked- Who's that? ... some naked ass- Whose naked ass is just sitting in that chair?

Okay? Oh my God. No. Like, bring your, the sanitize wipes and shit, and make sure you clean those chairs before you sit down. Now, see now, now we gotta start cleaning chairs at restaurants. Now you got me thinking. It's not just the tray table when you get on a plane. You gotta s- where you sit, you gotta clean it before you sit.

Oh my goodness. So I'm sure our listeners noticed that Jasmine is not here today. Um, she was not able to join us tonight, but we miss you, Jasmine. Miss you, Jasmine. But she did send us one. She did send us a, um, a weird one. So apparently in Florida there is a statute, 561.655, that bars any establishment licensed to sell alcohol from hosting contests or promotions exploiting a person with dwarfism, with penalties up to $1,000 fine and license revocation.

The administrative rule names dwarf tossing explicitly. Dwarf tossing? Tossing? It was passed in 1989. It's a real law, and it was passed because I guess a participant died of alcohol poisoning. Hmm. That I, I've never heard of a bar- Tossing ... people. People. And then there's a legislator in Florida in 2011 who tried to bring it back.

Oh. So it's a thing? Mm-hmm. That you just toss- Yeah ... these people around? He was trying to make it legal again, saying that it prevents some dwarfs from getting jobs they would be happy to get. What? Yeah, and that they shouldn't be preventing people from possibly making money. Is he, is he a small person himself?

No. I won- no. No. No. Well, so who i- oh my God. So he was trying to bring it back. That, that obviously did not happen. Right. But, like- That's very odd. I've never heard of that. I wouldn't even imagine people tossing- So not a wet T-shirt contest. No. No. Tossing people. They're tossing them. Tossing dwarfs, dwarf or, uh, little people- Right

around. That's crazy. Yeah. I don't know. Like, what? Oh my goodness. That is a weird one. That one is really weird. I can't. I cannot. She also mentioned that it's illegal to annoy a manatee. You know they have that law here. Yeah. Right. I know... Right, you shouldn't be disturbing them or... Yeah. There's, um- They're protected.

They're protected. Yeah. They're very protected animals. I know they, they, sometimes they come up to you- Yeah ... if you're swimming or, but you can't touch them. Right. Have you ever? No, I've never experienced it. Have you... No, okay. Probably would freak out if that shit came up to me. I know. I know they're very gentle.

They're very gentle. But they're big. But they're big animals. Yeah. They're big. I probably would freak out. So you can't pet them? No, you're not, you're not allowed to touch them. Mm-hmm. But I mean, I would... That would be, like, my first, "Ay, qué lindo." I know. I'd be like, "Ay, qué lindo." 'Cause they're so gent- they seem to be gentle.

Yeah. They're not, like, aggressive animals, so you'd be like But okay, you can't pet them. Well, since we're on the animal- we're talking about the animals, and this one I, this one I actually love. The chickens in Key West are protected. They're also protected over there. If you didn't know, well, now you know.

So I can't just take it home? Like- No ... if I see one? You cannot. They are like celebrities out there. You can't intentionally harm them. You can't kill them. You're not even supposed to feed them on public property Yeah. 'Cause they said that apparently it creates health issues and overpopulation. So don't feed them.

Only authorized handlers can relocate them. And in Ybor City, in Tampa, it's the same. I've been there, and there, I found that weird. Mm-hmm. I, I never thought I would see all those chickens and roos- you know, roosters just roaming Ybor City. But in Key West they're everywhere, too. The... I mean, I haven't been to Key West in- Oh, okay

years. And when I went, I mean, there were a few, not, not a lot, but- Yeah, they're everywhere, the chickens out there. And my first instinct is to say, "Go get it." Take it home. Right. That's funny. But they're protected. Okay. They are. So you can't, and you can't even feed them. No, they said you shouldn't feed them.

That's interesting. Well, good for the chickens. We like, we like chickens. We like chickens. Um, yeah. Right. I have chickens of my own. Well, I think we can agree that every law exists because at some point society had to decide what was acceptable and what wasn't. And now we're facing a whole new category of situations our lawmakers never imagined.

So the question becomes, when technology changes the rules, do we need new laws? Let's talk about some of the biggest AI debates that are happening right now, Maritza. Like, what's one that caught your- The one recently was the, um, our books are being destroyed. I saw that. Yes. And, um, that one really kind of hurt, you know?

Yeah. 'Cause I mean, I, as a reader- Yeah ... I know I talked about, like, starting minimalism and getting rid of stuff- Mm-hmm ... but my books right now are not one of those things that I would like to get rid of. Yeah. It's interesting that what we were just talking about, we have laws that are protecting our chickens- Mm-hmm

right in Key West, but what about our books? You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, this is now starting to come up, you know, that we're now hearing about this. So what's gonna protect our, our books, you know what I mean? Like, just these old books where librarians were keeping them safe, right? Yeah. Well, what they're doing is AI companies are buying up books.

A lot of the books are, like, um, older- Right ... first edition, some would consider priceless, right? Yeah. But, I mean, there's value, and they're buying up all these books, and the AI computer is basically taking them apart- Mm-hmm ... cutting out the spines- Yep ... and it's just scanning the pages, and then they get destroyed, 'cause they're trying to automate the books to teach AI supposedly, right?

Yeah. But here's my thought. When it comes to that, like if... Let's just say that it comes to the point where they want to eliminate books entirely, and the only way you can access a book is through a computer, AI, or whatever. Now, for us, we might not be here. Mm-hmm. But for the kids, they could literally change the course of history if they wanted to.

Right. Right? If all the books are destroyed and there's only AI books, who's to say that in 30 years' time they could just change up history? Like, this never happened, that never happened. They can absolutely- This is what happened ... yeah, delete stuff Not that. Right. That's scary. Yeah. Yeah, 'cause you won't know...

And make up stuff. Right. So you don't even know what's real, you know? I mean, that's what we're going through today, what's real, what's not, half of the time. And I didn't think about that with this scenario. Now that you're saying that, you're absolutely right. Which I- How, how can we... We're supposed to trust that source.

That's the only source you have- Yeah ... at that time. It reminded me of the movie Book of Eli. Remember that? Yes. These movies don't lie, you know? We're gonna have to start rewatching all these movies. Yeah. You wanna know your future? Go back and start watching some of these movies because it's like all come true.

Exactly. Every, yeah, every time something happens, every, you know, something goes down, y- there's a movie that you can refer to and be like- Yeah ... "Hey, you remember this movie? That happened in that movie." Yeah. Go watch the movie and see what happens next. It's, it's uncomfortable. Like- It is ... it's crazy. And, and you want them to put a law in place for that, right?

Like to protect history, to protect the books and prote- but they already ruled that it's not against the law. That's crazy. They're, they're not doing anything illegal. They're purchasing, and once you purchase the books, then- You can do what you want with them ... you can do what you want with it. Which I, you know, I understand, but it's, it's crazy.

It is. Um, do, do they say what kind of books they're going after? Um- Well, here it says some of these books are rare Out of print or difficult to replace. And if the only copy gets destroyed, that's a piece of history that could disappear forever. Yeah. Like you said, or changed. Yeah. Make up. So now it's like, what do we do?

Go buy as many books as you can. I know. Because, like, you would think the classics, right, like Shakespeare and all, those are... They're old. Yeah. That's crazy. W- I mean, I already know probably what you're gonna say, but you think it should be legal for companies to destroy something in order to teach artificial intelligence?

There should be some oversight. Mm-hmm. Even though I'm not, I'm not, you know, pro-government oversight everything, but this is, this is scary. This is- Yeah ... you know. Like, I was listening to Elon Musk talk. He, he did an interview with The Economist, and he, he was proposing, not that this is gonna happen, but he was proposing that the head, the CEOs of each of these companies meet, I don't know if it's weekly, monthly, or whatever, have a meeting to discuss the things that are going on within their AI- Yeah

to make sure that there's nothing bad going on, right? Mm-hmm. And if there is, then you're, you're held accountable to fix it. And if you don't fix it, then they go and they get the government involved. Okay. Wow. Not that... I don't think that's gonna happen- Hmm ... because I don't... First of all, they don't like each other, most of them.

And then to get in, to be in a, a, on a Zoom call and be like, "Yeah, t- today we created this, that, and the other. Let me just give you all my ideas." Right. "And this is, this is the problem we're having- Mm-hmm ... so that you can go and create your own and perfect it." Like, I don't see that happening. Okay. It's a g- It's a good, um, a good thought, right?

Right. Like, he's trying to make sure that they're all held accountable 'cause they're all saying, and they're all saying the same thing. They, they know, we know that it's ever-changing, right? Every day is something new. Yeah. Like, every day. We could sit here and have a freaking podcast episode every week about something new that we heard about AI.

Oh, no. It- That's an endless conversation right now. Endless. Yeah, because- Just like all the time ... so many things happening. It's, it's changing so fast and so... And I think, too, there's a lot of stuff that they're talking about. Like, I would say, like, this book thing. Like, you know, it caught my eye, but I don't think it would catch everybody's eye right now.

No. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, not that many... There's nobody talking about it. You know what I mean? Where I'm just kinda like, wow, I mean, it hurt a little bit to, to read that, you know, that there, our books are being destroyed. I didn't even think about what you said. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, that just brings a whole other- What the?

Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm like, wow, yeah, that's true. You know, because everything you... Uh, right now I look online and I question everything now. Everything. You know? Is this real? Does this place exist? Oh, the, what a pretty house. Oh, it's not real. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like- But even news stories, like when you see, when you go on TikTok and it says CBS News and they're, they're saying something, I'm like, my first instinct is like, let me go online- Go to their actual website

to their actual website. Exactly. If I see it, then I can, okay. Right, of course. Because is it real? Like, uh- Right ... that's... But these c- these companies themselves, like the, the CEO of OpenAI and Anthropic, right? Mm-hmm. And even Elon Musk said it, it's moving too fast. It is. It's moving very fast, which they seem concerned, but the only way that they can slow it down is if they all come together collectively, each company, and say, "We're gonna slow down."

Right. And it's one thing that we are everyday people saying are concerned, but when it's somebody like that- And- ... you know, like, in it, they're in it, and they're- Concerned ... concerned, that's, yeah. It's nerve-wracking. Then it's nerve-wracking. But everybody wants to be first, so who's gonna actually say, "Okay, you know what?

We'll pause"? Right. I don't think that's gonna happen. Yeah. 'Cause they all wanna be the first to come out with whatever. Not only this, destroying books and, you know, for AI teaching purposes, but they're also, they've been doing these little, creating little hack, hackers- Mm-hmm ... amongst the AI. Right. There's been three different stories of three different events where these little hacking things have been able to get out of their element- Right

and hack into other companies. Which is insane. They're teaching themselves. Yeah. These little bots are teaching themselves. That reminds me of Avengers. There we go. A movie. I think it's Avengers: Endgame- Yes ... where he create, he has Jarvis, but he creates this other thing, and then all of a sudden he's like, "Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do my own thing and I'm gonna make myself this," and then he just- He's evil.

He's evil, and he was- Out to destroy. Right. Out to destroy. He was all out, out of whack. Yeah. God. What are we, what are we getting ourselves into? Mm-hmm. No, and also, um, that one Meta feature that was all of a sudden, if you have a public account, they were able to use your photos and, you know, any way they wanted to.

That's right. That was, uh- The Meta ... Meta Instagram. Mm-hmm. Right? They dropped, um- And the thing was that you were, like, or it seems like everybody was just opted in without permission. Right. Without, you know, nothing. It was just a feature that was added, and if you had a public account, well- No notification.

Nothing. No email. Yeah. No nothing saying, "Hey, this is what, this is a new..." Nope, that was it. Yeah. It was all your... If you were public, all your photos and videos were, um, accessible to AI- Right ... for whatever purpose they deemed fit. Which is crazy because you, we're hearing so many things. I mean, there's so many stories out there, the, you know, the, what is it?

The deep fake. Yeah. Where they're taking your, you know, people's images, faces, and making videos of you in, you know, pornographic ways or, you know, and it looks real. Yeah. It, you know. I think I had told you that one story about this one celebrity, I think in the UK, where she was showing up to work because...

And these men were, like, all talking to her, you know, like, these guys at work that she worked with, they all thought they were in a relationship with her. They all thought they were in a relationship with her. A bunch of them. And they were talking to her, like, all in, you know, like, sexual ways and all that stuff, and it was because somebody had copied her face and used her as this sexual thing, and she was having relationships with these guys.

Online. Online. Oh my God. And it wasn't her. She had no idea what the hell was going on. That's scary. That's very scary. And there, y- and then it's people that she worked with. Right. She's going to work, and it's people that she work... And they were, they were convinced that they were in a relationship with her.

Mm. Which is- Creepy ... creepy, scary, everything. And then you have this meta feature that comes out that, that can... You know? And it's, it's crazy because a lot of people that are, you know, content creators or- Right ... influencers, whatever you wanna call them, they're public. Yeah. And they share pictures of not only themselves, but their entire families- Right

their children, and that's another thing. Child pornography. Child pornography. That is huge. Yeah. And AI has created a space for that, which is scary. Well, they ended up taking it down. They, they, they pulled back on the feature. Well, I guess, uh, everybody- But I don't think that's the end of it. You know what I mean?

Like- Right ... because even before this feature came up, this is already happening. Right. So, you know I think Instagram just, you know- But- ... they got a lot of backlash from it ... well, you gotta remember, what you post online is basically fee- free for anyone to use. Right. The, the, you don't really own that. Even though you're posting it on your account, it- It's true.

Yeah ... it's not yours. It's out there. And the, I mean, they, they can use it for commercials if they wanted to, which I've seen people use- Yeah ... social media posts that are public on commercial. I've seen companies do that. Yeah. I mean, they're doing everything right now. They're taking people's images, their, your voice, you know?

How- That's another thing. So the voice, that should be- They need to... That's the thing that we're, that, well, as we're talking about, like, all these laws, like, everything is happening so fast- Yeah ... that they really don't have, like, laws or rules, right? We don't have those in place yet because - There's too many, like- It-

too many things to- It's too new ... to review. Yeah. It's very new. And so I guess I'm hoping that eventually there will be some kind of boundaries with some of this stuff because it's really getting out of hand. Yeah. I know some celebrities have taken, taken their own, um, steps to protect themselves. Yeah.

Where they, I think it was Taylor Swift, where she, um, trademarked or patented, like, her voice and this and that, like, so that, that you can't use it- Right ... for AI. That, it shouldn't be legal. No, that shouldn't be legal. That shouldn't be legal. It shouldn't be legal where they can take your image or your voice and use it for AI.

It shouldn't. It shouldn't be legal. That shouldn't be legal. How is that legal? How is that okay? Yeah, I don't know, 'cause it's not legal for you to use Disney photos for, right, like, for your purpose to sell- Exactly ... or whatever. Okay, so- You need permission. Exactly. Right. But we can use your face and your, and your voice.

But we can use a mouse that doesn't... A cartoon. Right. He's not even a real... Mickey Mouse is not real. And we can use Mickey Mouse on a- On a, whatever we want ... you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, but I can use your face, Monica. Well, we can use Monica's face and voice. Like- Yeah ... how does that even make sense?

How does that even make sense? You know another one that freaks me out? Or the, some of those an- Like, because, you know, we can animate people, right? Yeah. I don't like it. I've seen it before, but, like, you know, after somebody passes away, like, you can animate them, like, giving you a hug. The old, yeah, the old photo.

The old photos. Yeah. I don't like it. That's creepy. I don't like it. I've seen it, people do it, and it freaks me out. Is that okay? Should people be able to do that? Uh, yeah, I don't know. I mean- That's- I don't know. Like, that to me is, like, you know, like, sacred, right? Like, a, a memory. Yeah. And I don't know, to animate it, I don't know.

I don't like that. It's... I, I find that creepy. Yeah. Like, animating a dead person's photo. I've seen it, and I just, yeah, I don't like it. I think I've said that, like, 20 times.

But then you have companies, too, creating A- you know, the ch- AI chatbots using a person's old text messages, emails, social media posts, voice recordings, videos, anything they're taking to just, you know, reuse. I don't think that that should be legal. I really don't. Yeah. They're gonna have a hard time. Yeah.

The government is gonna have a hard time trying to- They're gonna have to create a whole new s- they have to create a whole new set of laws for all of this because it's not, it's not okay. It really isn't. I get artificial intelligence and all that, but if you're gonna... You shouldn't be using people, real people, and creating- Yeah.

They could put you in a place you've never been. They have been doing that. And blame you for shit. They have been doing that. Or holding your child ransom, and they don't have your child, for money. Yeah. I mean, I ain't trying to give anybody ideas out there, but you shouldn't be doing that. Yeah. I think it's been done.

It's been done. I mean, it's not, like, something new. I- Yeah, that, that was being done- Yeah ... well, but voice. Right. It was all voice. Voice. Exactly. They would call you and be like, "Hey," you know, "I have your child." Yeah, I have your child. I have your son, you know? But they're using, they were using AI, the voice.

Voice. Yeah, for that. Right, for that, exactly, because they need the s- the child's voice to make it sound believable. Yeah. Which is a horrible thing. Yeah, well, all of that is, like, really- It's unsettling. Yeah. I mean, I- You mentioned that one- How would you feel, let's say you saw your face somewhere and it wasn't you?

Oh, I'd probably go crazy That would do something to you, right? They don't... Yeah. And then, you know, they can mess up your whole life, your marriage. You can destroy somebody's marriage like that. Yes, that you can. And should that be legal? No. It should not. It should be illegal. That should be very illegal.

But they don't... I don't think we have any laws that say that is illegal. No, not yet, at least. What do you... What, what is that... What would that be considered? Fraud? No. I don't know. Deepfake is- Deepfake. Deepfake. Deepfake should be illegal. Yeah. All right. So let me ask you a couple questions, Monica. Okay. And you tell me, should this be illegal?

Should it be legal? Should it not be legal? Okay. So I think I just asked you about your face, about AI. Yeah. Should people... Should AI cloning your voice without permission, should that be legal? No. How about, I... We've covered this, nudity in a public place. Uh, yeah, no. No. I mean, Florida, you gotta draw a line somewhere because this is, uh, a, a dinner, a nude dinner.

I don't know. Yeah. I get freaked out by Speedos. Like- Yeah ... if I'm on the be- if, if I'm on the beach and I see someone in Speedos, I have to turn my head, like I don't wanna see that. How do you feel about what I said about the recreating somebody after they die? Do you think it should be illegal? I mean, if the person is asking for it to be done- A loved one.

Yeah. I mean, if it's something that they, if- I guess ... they should be able to, if it's something that they want- If it's something that they want ... that comforts them or whatever. But I don't know. I don't know about it being illegal. Okay. Here's a weird one. Should it be illegal to wrestle a bear? Because there is a law, there is a law for that, wrestling a bear.

It's illegal in several states. Did you know that? Who's wrestling bears? If I'm wrestling a bear, it's to get the fuck away. Like... And is that illegal? I'm trying to save my life here. Exactly. Wrestling a bear or bear wrestling- Bear wrestling is illegal ... do you mean, like, maybe like, like, like- Also for like-

like fighting and stuff like that? For... Yeah, yeah, exactly. Something like an event ... training bears to fight Right But then who can train a bear to fight- I don't know ... like, who- That's really... I mean, if you could do that, I'd think that's cool. That you could train a bear? That you could train a bear to wrestle.

But it's not, it, it's illegal. It actually is illegal in some states- Oh ... in the US. If you could create any law, what would it be, Monica? If I can create a law? Yeah. There... Is there a law that you would be like, "You know, that should be a law," if you can create one? I don't know. Oh, I put you on the spot. You did.

I think- Micromanaging should be against the law

That's another- That's what I think ... episode right there. That's a whole nother episode, but yeah, that should be illegal. That should be illegal. That should be illegal. You know what I think should be illegal, too? I think that when a plane lands, I think nobody should be able to stand up. Like, y'all gotta wait.

You know what I mean? They should have some kind of... You know how they call you in groups to get into the plane? They should have something like that getting out of the plane. It... Th- there, there's no, no groups. The minute that plane lands, everybody stands up, and it's like- It should be in order. Yeah. It sh- I, I don't understand

there should be an order. The first row goes- Right ... second row goes, third row Exactly. Yeah. That's the order. That should be a law. And you know what? I'm sorry, but it irritates me 'cause the minute that plane stops, everybody's like, whoop. Like, they... I'm like, where y'all, where do you think you're going? Well, then boarding the damn plane should be the same way, too.

Just start from the back and you work your way to the front. Work your way to the front. 'Cause that- That's, that's what I'm talking about ... the way they board planes is, like- Yeah ... the stupidest thing ever. It is. It, yeah. If you're in first class, by all means, all of first class, you go. Right. But the cabin in the back, from back to front.

I don't care how much you pay for your ticket. From back to front. Back to front. That's, that's the way it should go. Right. And don't- You shouldn't have to be climbing- Listen ... over people to get to your seat ... there should be so many, there should be so many rules on the planes. Like, you can't walk into the plane and put your luggage in the first cabin, and then you're sitting all the way in the freaking back.

Yeah. Like, you can't do that. That. Okay? So there sh- there's a number of laws going on. No, you're talking about courtesy. That's different. No. But yeah. There should be a law. I agree with the whole deplaning thing, like no, nobody's allowed to get up. And there you have it, the world's newest potential law, how to deplane without losing your mind.

I have to say, these laws discussed today were pretty interesting to learn about. It's funny how some of the strangest laws we talked about today probably sound ridiculous at first, but most of them exist because something happened that made people think, "Maybe we need a law for that." Now we're watching history repeat itself with AI.

The technology is advancing so quickly that we're being forced to ask new questions. We're not just looking back at old laws anymore. We're trying to decide what rules need to exist moving forward. If you've enjoyed today's conversation, please follow the podcast, leave us a rating and review, and share this episode with someone who loves a good debate.

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